no proof. i'm just pissing in the wind, but to use another saying; where there is smoke there is fire.

Why on earth would someone feel compelled to ring up and say that he [censored] on the bar if he did'nt? IMO He just got lucky that the CCTV didnt find him guilty, so he is presumed innocent.

Ever played "Chinese whispers"?

You could get that in one move from "I saw Beamer so [censored] he was leaning on the bar".

And you can never discount idiots wanting to exaggerate a crap story to make it worth listening to.

So, anything actually happen with this today?

The simple facts of the matter are that Sylvia has brought unwanted attention on himself and the club. All of the facts aren't known, but leaving the scene of an accident like that is irresponsible. Not being professional on the eve of a training session to represent your country also shows someone that is not fully dedicated to be the best they can. Forgive me for wanting single minded senior players at the club that are hell bent on ending our premiership drought. Hawthorn players back in the 1980's gave up the grog during the off season in their attempt to be the best they could; and it was still only a semi professional era. And we have people on here making excuses for poor old Col.

Some players just get all the bad luck, eh Col ?

wow, just like Tom Scully wasnt telling lies?

Beamer would have [censored] on the bar for sure, none of the CCTV cameras would have got a good view thats all.

I don't know when that kid lied, or if he did.

But I can tell you that Beamer never [censored] on a bar.

Occasionally, SEN callers embellish the truth.

Hey detectives,

This isn't an episode of csi

Damn........bloody spoilsport!

Hey detectives,

there is nothing we can do about it, the club will or will not make a decision, there's no point getting all high and mighty, and there's no point underselling it. It is what it is, nobody here will have the facts, and you'll just have to trust the club to do the right thing.

This isn't an episode of csi

Damn........bloody spoilsport!

Brilliant!

ha, ill pay that on effort alone

I'll pay it because it's the most brilliant thing I've ever seen.

And double sunglasses!

YAWN!

I'll pay that

And good pickup DA on the double sunglasses.....could this be a clue to what really happened?

.....to be continued no doubt

Classic cartoon there.

Yeah, im glad Col is ok too.

I freaked out when i read the headline, personally im stoked he is alright

rpfc - post of the century!

If anyone else wants to make their own Horatio cartoon, here's the link:

http://www.karolinagames.com/horatio/

Just type in your text and you're all set.

Sylvia - serial offending chronic under-performer. I don't think selection in the Australian squad benefits him, it just goes to his head - he needs to understand what he's done.

That is totes amaze, and I do not hand out that sort of compliment lightly!

Sylvia - serial offending chronic under-performer. I don't think selection in the Australian squad benefits him, it just goes to his head - he needs to understand what he's done.

I agree he's underperformed, but was still in our best for 2011.

I agree he's underperformed, but was still in our best for 2011.

Says more about his colleagues and our year than Colin...

I could have been in our best for 2011

Sylvia - serial offending chronic under-performer. I don't think selection in the Australian squad benefits him, it just goes to his head - he needs to understand what he's done.

Col gets labelled a serial offender by quite a few on here but I'd like to know what constitutes a serial offender. My understanding is he’s been on the list for 8 years during which time he has been charged with kicking his girlfriend (he actually kicked her handbag), falling asleep drunk in a nightclub, staying out late after a NAB Cup game and now leaving the scene of an accident where he was the passenger of the car involved.

Is there anymore or is that it?

He’s also been portrayed as under achiever, well maybe he’s not maybe he’s played as well as he could considering he’s had Daniher and Bailey as coach’s and suffered severe OP during the early part of his career. Oh! Did I mention that for four of the years he’s been at the club we’ve finished nearer to last then first including two spoons?

I think a lot of the angst towards Col is because we perceive him to be a better player than perhaps he is and we blame his failure to live up to our standards on his “serial offences”. It’s always good to have an excuse when someone lets you down.

Col gets labelled a serial offender by quite a few on here but I'd like to know what constitutes a serial offender. My understanding is he’s been on the list for 8 years during which time he has been charged with kicking his girlfriend (he actually kicked her handbag), falling asleep drunk in a nightclub, staying out late after a NAB Cup game and now leaving the scene of an accident where he was the passenger of the car involved.

Is there anymore or is that it?

He’s also been portrayed as under achiever, well maybe he’s not maybe he’s played as well as he could considering he’s had Daniher and Bailey as coach’s and suffered severe OP during the early part of his career. Oh! Did I mention that for four of the years he’s been at the club we’ve finished nearer to last then first including two spoons?

I think a lot of the angst towards Col is because we perceive him to be a better player than perhaps he is and we blame his failure to live up to our standards on his “serial offences”. It’s always good to have an excuse when someone lets you down.

Totally agree RobbieF. Col has done very little when put into the context of the greater human race. Sure he shouldn't have run from an accident scene, but ot may have been instinctive as it freaked him out. The sound of breaking glass and scrunching metal can do that. Maybe the power pole started to come down straight at them. WE WERE NOT THERE. This thread has become a feeding frenzy of opinion that i find rather disappointing. Get off his case, he was not charged with anything.

Col gets labelled a serial offender by quite a few on here but I'd like to know what constitutes a serial offender. My understanding is he’s been on the list for 8 years during which time he has been charged with kicking his girlfriend (he actually kicked her handbag), falling asleep drunk in a nightclub, staying out late after a NAB Cup game and now leaving the scene of an accident where he was the passenger of the car involved.

Is there anymore or is that it?

He’s also been portrayed as under achiever, well maybe he’s not maybe he’s played as well as he could considering he’s had Daniher and Bailey as coach’s and suffered severe OP during the early part of his career. Oh! Did I mention that for four of the years he’s been at the club we’ve finished nearer to last then first including two spoons?

I think a lot of the angst towards Col is because we perceive him to be a better player than perhaps he is and we blame his failure to live up to our standards on his “serial offences”. It’s always good to have an excuse when someone lets you down.

Totally agree RobbieF. Col has done very little when put into the context of the greater human race. Sure he shouldn't have run from an accident scene, but it may have been instinctive as it freaked him out. The sound of breaking glass and scrunching metal can do that. Maybe the power pole started to come down straight at them. WE WERE NOT THERE. This thread has become a feeding frenzy of opinion that i find rather disappointing. Get off his case, he was not charged with anything.

Edited October 25, 201114 yr by why you little

Col gets labelled a serial offender by quite a few on here but I'd like to know what constitutes a serial offender. My understanding is he’s been on the list for 8 years during which time he has been charged with kicking his girlfriend (he actually kicked her handbag), falling asleep drunk in a nightclub, staying out late after a NAB Cup game and now leaving the scene of an accident where he was the passenger of the car involved.

Is there anymore or is that it?

He’s also been portrayed as under achiever, well maybe he’s not maybe he’s played as well as he could considering he’s had Daniher and Bailey as coach’s and suffered severe OP during the early part of his career. Oh! Did I mention that for four of the years he’s been at the club we’ve finished nearer to last then first including two spoons?

I think a lot of the angst towards Col is because we perceive him to be a better player than perhaps he is and we blame his failure to live up to our standards on his “serial offences”. It’s always good to have an excuse when someone lets you down.

Highly ironic statement to end your post on - you have give Colin plenty of excuses - Daniher, Bailey, injury, the MFC's general crapness, he isn't as good as we think, etc

I think he lacks drive, too often is a passenger..

Highly ironic statement to end your post on - you have give Colin plenty of excuses - Daniher, Bailey, injury, the MFC's general crapness, he isn't as good as we think, etc

They're not excuses they're facts; what we expect of Col maybe something he is incapable of delivering; you understand that part don't you?