The Players

[Guest hangon007]

I have this bloke on ignore he's just too hard to read.

Wonder what ever happened to Artie Bucco the club apologist, he seems to have disappeared wish he'd take hangon with him.

Then you have the ignorant ones amongst us that dont want to listen to everybody. Nope, they only want to listen to their own "herd." I have and never will put anybody on ignore ... sorry thats not my style.

They make zero effort to understand. But thats exactly what we are fighting against.

This is a great little forum and should be a positive constructive vibe for our football club, but sadly its where many belittle our players & our club, with negative rubbish. They dish it out but they cant take it. But hey thats their right its a public forum.

I'm not here to defend the faceless ... I'm here to defend our players and my club. But, I'm always willing to listen to others. I'm very, very lucky I've seen the insides of many AFL clubs, sadly we all have to give a bit. We always cant expect somebody else to do the fighting for us. When you delegate the responsibility's you can't point the finger.

Well not at least how many do it around here, with a complete lack of respect ... respect is a two way street. The media feed off it & expose it in the daily media. Thats how the media works in 2011. The media is no longer 10 individual voices ... its one or two, maybe three or four repeated in many different forms ie TV, radio, newspaper & online.

PS Sorry I dont believe its my way or the highway ... but you are well within your right to believe what you want. But that wont stop me having a crack.

Edited August 2, 2011 by hangon007

[Dee Fan 3,247]

IMO Melbourne haven't progressed one iota in the last couple of years, in fact the only reason we have won games is that some of the shittier clubs have become even shittier.

We have followed a youth policy and that has been to the detriment of some of the senior players and hopefully we will now drop that and pick the best side, irrespective of age, each week. I have been a supporter of the youth policy but it is now evident that it has led to two things.

1 Discontent within the playing group

2 Games given to young kids when they were not ready or not capable, some of these kids have never had to fight for a spot and it shows when they get out on the field. If you are a senior player and know you are not in the long term plans of the club why would you bother? If you are a kid and know that no matter how badly you play you will still get a game next week, why would you bother.

This has led to a total disintegration of the playing group, imo and we must not let it continue.

Players should be picked on merit or on match up not on age or potential.

[H_T 2,941]

We've had very bad losses over many, many years now. Why does this one take the cake?

I was editing whilst you posted this. Read more please.

Again, sorry, but IDGUF how 'comfortable' he looked. DO THE JOB YOU'RE ASKED - or die trying.

If he's incapable of such against such quality, don't you think he could be better utilised up forward, particularly when Green is MIA for the whole first half. Green is captain, we need leadership, get him involved...let him run with Bartel send Jurrah forward for an aerial presence (his strength) and hopefully he will kick some goals (bingo ! his other strength).

Leap. Inital dash.

Indeed. And as I just mentioned, dangerous up forward, kicks goals.

Can't see thread while posting.

I have the same problem...

So why enquire beyond that 99.9% ? Even if the .1% was perfect, it cannot account for the 99.9%.

My point is, IMO it can't all be the players fault - certainly not 99.9% as was Jaded's opinion (you'll have to scroll to see...when you're not posting), despite my frustration at the players performance.

[Trisul 636]

Tired. If he's incapable then he's expendable. Development year is development year. Develop, die trying, or leave.

What part of this programme wasn't spelt our *years* ago? I don't think it could have been made any clearer, myself.

If the players don't make up 99.9% of the result (extreme circumstances notwithstanding) then, heck, maybe those 'we will win this week' recent threads shoud be banned.

[H_T 2,941]

Tired. If he's incapable then he's expendable. Development year is development year. Develop, die trying, or leave.

What part of this programme wasn't spelt our *years* ago? I don't think it could have been made any clearer, myself.

I'm all for developing players, I understood your point completely. I look at what's taken place in previous weeks, the opposition on the day, our strengths and our weaknesses. I thought Bailey had the balance wrong in this regard, and it's not the first time either for the start of a game.

If the players don't make up 99.9% of the result (extreme circumstances notwithstanding) then, heck, maybe those 'we will win this week' recent threads shoud be banned.

So you're not a believer in pre-match preparation, mindset, motivation ? Or the coaches imparted knowledge on his players and their set tasks and what message he sends ?

[Trisul 636]

I'm all for developing players, I understood your point completely. I look at what's taken place in previous weeks, the opposition on the day, our strengths and our weaknesses. I thought Bailey had the balance wrong in this regard, and it's not the first time either for the start of a game.

So you're not a believer in pre-match preparation, mindset, motivation ? Or the coaches imparted knowledge on his players and their set tasks and what message he sends ?

Baptism of fire or singalong?

This becomes one with the player. Edit: Or not.

Edited August 2, 2011 by Trident

[45HG 1,539]

Finally the real heat on the senior players appears.

[rpfc 27,496]

Finally the real heat on the senior players appears.

I hope Garry and Todd and telling this to Brad and his sorry band this week.

[H_T 2,941]

Finally the real heat on the senior players appears.

That simple statistic tells me the Demons on-field leadership has been absolutely deplorable.

It collapsed completely at Geelong on Saturday when the Melbourne team looked like a bunch of individuals simply wearing the same jumper.

To my knowledge the Melbourne player leadership group led by captain Brad Green remains unchanged even after the weekend debacle.

Absolutely. As previously stated this needs to be addressed, big time.

[Nasher 33,068]

I hope Garry and Todd and telling this to Brad and his sorry band this week.

Indeed. They've essentially escaped without consequence so far.

[beelzebub 22,225]

Finally the real heat on the senior players appears.

A very good article...very good. Nails it.

Just goes to reinforce what weve feared all along. The leadership at Melbourne is abysmal...Sad really.

The light needs to swung arounf on the likes of Mahoney, Royal , West, Williams as well.

Thered be quite a few at Melbourne I suspect feeeling damn lucky, for all the wrong reasons !!