So if he can't play (only train and be around the club)why waste a highish pick or player to get him. He will be able to be around the club running around with his u18 side anyway....

We could throw Bate and Dunn at them for him and it saves us a first round draft pick at the end of 2012 (which he probably will cost us regardless of father-son right now)

Hence we could actually trade for one of those picks under the guise of taking Viney, then pinch another gun like O'Meara (seeing as we could still secure Viney F/S).

I imagine if we operated unde the premise of taking Viney and not weakening the following draft pool, GWS would trade a pick to us more cheaply (Bate, Dunn - who are both under contract for 2012, so can't be taken by GWS as an uncontracted player until next year).

Possibly.

We have to nominate to GWS who we're taking with it. Only issue with that is O'Meara has said he wants to stay in WA.

Do we though?

I don't think we do.

If we did then we'd be trading for the rights to a player, not for a pick in a 'mini-draft'.

The process is still vague and inconclusive.

Although, immediately after posting I realised a flaw in that plan, assuming it is a pick you trade for, not the player.

The players would presumably have to make themselves available for the mini-draft prior to the trading of picks in trade week.

Presumably there'd also be penalties for players nominating for the mini-draft then not going to that team, just as with the National Draft.

So for that ploy to work, you'd need to have Jack Viney nominate, making himself vulnerable to poaching, and then pray to god another team with a similar pick doesn't take him.

In fact, even if we were to aim to take him, we'd have to be sure another team wouldn't have a pick before us, and wouldn't then snaffle him as he was exposed by the system.

Much safer to just wait it out & secure him via the F/S route.

Do we though?

I don't think we do.

If we did then we'd be trading for the rights to a player, not for a pick in a 'mini-draft'.

The process is still vague and inconclusive.

Although, immediately after posting I realised a flaw in that plan, assuming it is a pick you trade for, not the player.

The players would presumably have to make themselves available for the mini-draft prior to the trading of picks in trade week.

Presumably there'd also be penalties for players nominating for the mini-draft then not going to that team, just as with the National Draft.

So for that ploy to work, you'd need to have Jack Viney nominate, making himself vulnerable to poaching, and then pray to god another team with a similar pick doesn't take him.

In fact, even if we were to aim to take him, we'd have to be sure another team wouldn't have a pick before us, and wouldn't then snaffle him as he was exposed by the system.

Much safer to just wait it out & secure him via the F/S route.

That's the thing. The whole situation is so vague. It's probably going to work best on certain players in my opinion. Guys who want to stay in their state for example, such as O'Meara, or guys like Viney who will simply be a F/S anyway. Remember, GWS are almost certainly going to have the #1 pick for the 2013 Draft as well (although I'm not sure whether the priority pick rule comes back in for 2013, and if so Gold Coast could be eligible?) and will thus be lining up the top talent for THAT draft as well. They'll be looking at those that they can genuinely get, rather than those (such as Viney) who won't be going their way.

I'm anticipating Freo trading with GWS for one of those picks for O'Meara.

Getting some early touches today

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Mid way through the third 10 touches 4 tackles 1.1 goals 55 dream team

Do pretty well.

J patton has kicked 3.1

Not as busy as he was a fortnight ago but boy does he tackle hard!

Vic Metro up by 20 points at 3/4 time.

finished with 12 touches. 4 tackles. 1 goal 2 behinds.

Easy win to Metro. Jack had just the 12 possessions and kicked 1.2.

A reasonable effort but the star was Jonathon Patton the big key forward who kicked 5.2 and took some strong marks.

If we lose you know who, we should make an all out effort for the first pick in the draft as compensation which would only be fair.

Finished with 12 possessions, 4 tackles, Kicked 1.2

6 contested possessions (6 uncontested)

2 clearances

1 i50

1 R50

67% disposal efficiency

Patton ended up with 5 goals.

ref: AFL MATCH CENTRE

Did Chad Wingard get injured?

I've seen him talked about as one of the top 3 picks in the draft, but he only had 3 touches.

From what I read yesterday the mini draft works by the AFL sending out a list of kids that are eligible who then nominate whether or not they want the chance to go into this mioni draft. Once the list is finalised the clubs are given the list. The picks are obviously 1,2,3,4 which is then up to us to sort out a deal with GWS to get one of those picks and it is up to them to decide what pick we get for our offer. Not all four picks have to be used this year as long as all four are gone by the end of the same period next year

Did Chad Wingard get injured?

I've seen him talked about as one of the top 3 picks in the draft, but he only had 3 touches.

They might say he's top 3 because he only gets 3 touches...but their all tops...

Big day for the Victorians with Vic Country on top of WA late in the game.

Devon Smith and Clay Smith very good for VC.

Finished with 12 possessions, 4 tackles, Kicked 1.2

6 contested possessions (6 uncontested)

2 clearances

1 i50

1 R50

67% disposal efficiency

Patton ended up with 5 goals.

ref: AFL MATCH CENTRE

While the stats don't indicate that Jack's game was anything special, he still made it into his team's best players according to aflcom.au :-

Vic Metro  3.2   4.5   9.7   10.16 (76)

South Australia  1.3   3.4   6.5   7.8     (50)  

Goals:

Metro: Patton 5, Frost, Curran, Woodward, Viney, Tyson

South Australia: Hender 2, Kennedy 2, McDonough, Grigg, Mayes

Best:

Metro: Patton, Longer, Ellis, Sumner, Kennedy, Newnes, Greene, Viney

South Australia: McKay, Amato, Mayes, Neale

While the stats don't indicate that Jack's game was anything special, he still made it into his team's best players according to aflcom.au :-

Vic Metro  3.2   4.5   9.7   10.16 (76)

South Australia  1.3   3.4   6.5   7.8     (50)  

Goals:

Metro: Patton 5, Frost, Curran, Woodward, Viney, Tyson

South Australia: Hender 2, Kennedy 2, McDonough, Grigg, Mayes

Best:

Metro: Patton, Longer, Ellis, Sumner, Kennedy, Newnes, Greene, Viney

South Australia: McKay, Amato, Mayes, Neale

Any idea what his Time-on-Ground was Jack?

Maybe he didn't play much time

Did Chad Wingard get injured?

I've seen him talked about as one of the top 3 picks in the draft, but he only had 3 touches.

They just spoke to Peter Rhode (PAFC) on FiveAA and were talking about Chad... Our man Jack tackled him in the first qtr and he never recovered... Apparently Jack tackled him, pack developed, all got up except Chad.

Did Chad Wingard get injured?

I've seen him talked about as one of the top 3 picks in the draft, but he only had 3 touches.

Yes he did. Happened before quarter time - seemed concussed. Didn't return. When Jack hits them, they do not get up. Viney will make the All Australian Under 18 team IMO.

Yes he did. Happened before quarter time - seemed concussed. Didn't return. When Jack hits them, they do not get up. Viney will make the All Australian Under 18 team IMO.

So he will miss 3 weeks after every game for tackling

JV and JMcK as our inside mids with Blease and Nicho as our jets. God this is exciting.

So he will miss 3 weeks after every game for tackling

Don't worry about missing a ew matches..just look forward to a little tank coming our way...

Dont speak to soon guys. Jack has been reported for the tackle your talking about. Fronts the U18 tribunal on Monday. Would be a shame if we didn't get to see him on Foxtel Wednesday!

Correct. On Emma Quayle's Twitter:

Jack Viney will be up at the u18 tribunal on Monday afternoon. Reported for rough conduct for a tackle on SA's Chad Wingard yesterday.

Roost it reported hearing the same information that Tom was looking at possibly moving to a Melbourne based Club. I would rather see him go to GWS than to Collingwood.

Hmmmn, & where did the Scully to GWS rumour start, I seem to have forgotten who started it.

Correct. On Emma Quayle's Twitter:

Aarrrgh! I was hoping to see him in E'd's hat, on Wednesday.

Good luck JV.

I've got a sponsor for him already lined up, any sailors out there?

JVMARINE

I've tweeted Emma Quayle to find out if there's a result on Jack Viney's tribunal appearance (result to be posted when available).

All I can say is that these Prince Alfred College boys had a big weekend.

• Jack Trengove one of our best v Bulldogs but his tackle on Ward created controversy;

• Luke Tapscott one of Casey's best v Werribee and KO's their captain in a clash of heads (accidental) a minute into the game. Gets up rubbing his head but goes on to play a fine game;

• Jack Viney one of Vic Metro's best v SA and KO's their captain as a result of a tackle. Fronts tribunal; and

• Luke Saville wins junior boys title at Wimbledon. Nobody hurt physically at all.

Not bad.