Super sub from the past.

[Geddy Lee 582]

Allen Jakovich.

AJ and LJ

[Roost It 1,434]

Coulda, woulda, shoulda sums it up. This is just a hypothetical topic and not to be taken seriously.

As you say, HIS HOME WAS ON THE WING. The Barassi years were a joke. He could have played anywhere and been the superstar in that team. A half back flanker is still an outside player. He could rise to the occasion in any position but I doubt given his build he could sustain the physical punishment for long in packs and heavily contested play. In his final year he was more or less playing for his pension fund. Still gave us the usual great service and it was sad to see him lame and crippled in the goal square in his final game in the 87 PF. If we made it to the GF he'd never would have played.

You're a clown. Flower by a mile (since 1970) To say he was crippled or on a pension fund is just plain wrong. Had it not been for him no one, I repeat no one would barrack for this club and I personally doubt we would exist right now. Take him away from our sides from 75 - 86 and there was no reason to go to a Melbourne game.

[John Crow Batty 8,879]

You're a clown. Flower by a mile (since 1970) To say he was crippled or on a pension fund is just plain wrong. Had it not been for him no one, I repeat no one would barrack for this club and I personally doubt we would exist right now. Take him away from our sides from 75 - 86 and there was no reason to go to a Melbourne game.

I wish some posters would read things more carefully before engaging in unwarranted personal attacks especially in dealing with these hypothetical whimsical topics that are just opinion based. I lamented he was crippled in his final game because it was a tragic shame his career ended this way and he also missed out on a GF after such an outstanding career. If he was fit that game we would have won. As for the pension comment it was relavent as it was common knowledge it was his final year. He played out his career on the forward line as many quality veterans do to ensure they have a good chance of seeing out the year. I also acknowleged that he performed there to his usual high standard. It was a shame his career ended just as we were getting relavent again.

For the purpose of this topic I would agree with Tommo that he would be unsuited for a sub because he would be a regulation first pick starter in any game. It is beneath him to be a sub. Thats why I'd prefer a more multi role type like Grinter. But I do agree with you there was not much incentive to go to a Dee's game then without him playing.

Edited October 20, 2010 by america de cali

[John Crow Batty 8,879]

And further, seeing him on his own in the goal square unable to help us out in a game played to the death brought tears to my eyes. After all he had done for us in many forgetable years, he was cruely cut down in what would have been his finest momment. He tried his guts out but his injury was too debilitating.

[Hobbits's 17]

I wish some posters would read things more carefully before engaging in unwarranted personal attacks especially in dealing with these hypothetical whimsical topics that are just opinion based. I lamented he was crippled in his final game because it was a tragic shame his career ended this way and he also missed out on a GF after such an outstanding career. If he was fit that game we would have won. As for the pension comment it was relavent as it was common knowledge it was his final year. He played out his career on the forward line as many quality veterans do to ensure they have a good chance of seeing out the year. I also acknowleged that he performed there to his usual high standard. It was a shame his career ended just as we were getting relavent again.

For the purpose of this topic I would agree with Tommo that he would be unsuited for a sub because he would be a regulation first pick starter in any game. It is beneath him to be a sub. Thats why I'd prefer a more multi role type like Grinter. But I do agree with you there was not much incentive to go to a Dee's game then without him playing.

this is what you should have said in the first place. your "pension fund" line was out of line in the manner it was said. Flower was such a great contributor to this club (and such a club legend), particularly his slast season in '87 and getting into the finals by significantly contributing to the cause. as already mapped out by RR & Roost It.

Edited October 20, 2010 by Grimes to Watts

[Fork 'em 6,991]

The Ox's '94 season was spectacular and the Carey comparisons are relevant IMO but after just recently reading his book "All bets are off."I wonder about his committment to the club even if he managed to stay fit . The punt was 1st and the club that payed his wages a distant 2nd .

[Mydee 288]

Gary Lyon

More versatlilty than the others. To paraphrase Dermit Brereton= "not quite the best kick mark etc but all round the best." Willed himself to beat Brisbane off his own boot in the 90s

[Roost It 1,434]

Gary Lyon

More versatlilty than the others. To paraphrase Dermit Brereton= "not quite the best kick mark etc but all round the best." Willed himself to beat Brisbane off his own boot in the 90s

As big a fan of Garys, he still didn't cut the oranges for one R. Flower