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6. Gysberts

5. Green

4. Jones

3. Morton

2. Trengove

1. Jamar

 

6 - Gysberts

5 - Morton

4 - Grimes

3 - Jamar

2 - Moloney

1 - Green

The GOOD

2nd gamer Gysberts showing how its done

The BAD

This game shows why Davey will never be a Melbourne Captain

The UGLY

First Quarter and Last Quarter AGAIN

 

Why's that, because he had a crap game?

I don't necessarily agree with Swampfox, but since Davey became our leading 'playmaker', we have not won a single game when he is on the angry pills. When I saw him give away that free yesterday on the wing, about two minutes into the game, I knew where the game was heading. He is allergic to niggling taggers and the whole team comes down with him.


Why's that, because he had a crap game?

Because he lacks discipline and goes missing when the heat is on. He saw Carazzo come to him and start niggling and his head dropped straight away. The only way he knows how to respond is to give away pointless free kicks.

Certainly a disappointing day but I liked:-

6: Jamar

5: Moloney

4: Gysberts

3: Grimes

2: McDonald

1: Bruce

 

Because he lacks discipline and goes missing when the heat is on. He saw Carazzo come to him and start niggling and his head dropped straight away. The only way he knows how to respond is to give away pointless free kicks.

Absolutely 100% spot on.

Davey has been playing for a long time, and has been getting close attention for years, and yet he still reacts like a 10 year old when somebody niggles him.

His behaviour yesterday was honestly pathetic for someone with his level of experience and someone who is in the leadership group. I've seen him do it in finals, and I've seen him do it during H&A matches.

Bailey dragged him numerous times yesterday and rightfully so. I'd consider dropping him this week for disciplinary reasons, if we weren't playing such a big important game. He set the worst example of anyone out on the field yesterday.


6 - Morton

5 - Moloney

4 - Bruce

3 - Gysberts

2 - Grimes

1 - Jetta Junior

Comment: Disappointed. Deep breath. Onwards to next week now. QB weekend. Our blockbuster. :)

6 - Jordan Gysberts

5 - James McDonald

4 - Cameron Bruce

3 - Neville Jetta

2 - Cale Morton

1 - Brent Moloney

Top three of mine were probably tied best.

Jamar should have been best-on but gave away too many stupid free kicks.

6. Gysberts

5. Grimes

4. Jamar

3. Jetta

2. Morton

1. Green (would've geen higher but missed that crucial one early).

Moloney and Rivers good too.

We were their equals except for stupid ill-discipline (Jamar, Davey, Garland) and crucial missed goals (Green, Bennell, Bate)

We were their equals except for stupid ill-discipline (Jamar, Davey, Garland) and crucial missed goals (Green, Bennell, Bate)

Were Garland's frees against for ill-discipline? I don't remember any specific instances of him doing undisciplined acts this week.

I have noticed he gives away a lot of frees for in the back, crude tackles etc though. It's really disappointing because these often come off the back of some excellent pressure from him - e.g. he does all the hard work of keeping up with his opponent and harrassing and coralling and whatnot, then grabs the bloke around the neck when he gets the ball. That's not ill-discipline though, it's just a sloppy tackling technique.


That's not ill-discipline though, it's just a sloppy tackling technique.

Yep, and because he generally plays on smaller opponents, he ends up tackling high because he has height advantage over them.

Mind you, the stupid free kick in the backline at the start of the game was Warnock's fault, not Garland's.

Bloody Sultana got stuck into him and Warnock lost it.

The whole game was full of disappointing mistakes.

I have noticed he gives away a lot of frees for in the back, crude tackles etc though. It's really disappointing because these often come off the back of some excellent pressure from him - e.g. he does all the hard work of keeping up with his opponent and harrassing and coralling and whatnot, then grabs the bloke around the neck when he gets the ball. That's not ill-discipline though, it's just a sloppy tackling technique.

Which reminds me. Garland got done for hands in the back against Garlett I think. Fair dinkum. I know the hands in the back is against the rules. But Garland was stiff to be pulled up on one. Garland used his hands ever so gently - more for balance than anything. Result, shot on goal from 50.

Yet, nowadays, they have relaxed the rule with hands on the shoulders when going up for a mark. Spare me.

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Mark Jamar has wrested back the lead!

73.112 Mark Jamar

70.951 James McDonald

62.808 James Frawley

61.153 Jack Grimes

57.092 Brent Moloney

43.553 Brad Green

36.527 Jack Trengove

33.071 Tom Scully

32.347 Colin Sylvia

25.983 Aaron Davey

22.147 Matthew Bate

20.656 Ricky Petterd

19.567 Jordie McKenzie

18.567 Jamie Bennell

17.257 Jordan Gysberts

17.065 Matthew Warnock

16.025 Nathan Jones

14.878 Cameron Bruce

9.680 Clint Bartram

8.211 Rohan Bail

8.073 Neville Jetta

7.921 Lynden Dunn

7.064 Brad Miller

4.752 Cale Morton

2.812 Joel Macdonald

2.453 Jack Watts

Mark Jamar has wrested back the lead!

73.112 Mark Jamar

70.951 James McDonald

62.808 James Frawley

61.153 Jack Grimes

57.092 Brent Moloney

43.553 Brad Green

36.527 Jack Trengove

33.071 Tom Scully

32.347 Colin Sylvia

25.983 Aaron Davey

22.147 Matthew Bate

20.656 Ricky Petterd

19.567 Jordie McKenzie

18.567 Jamie Bennell

17.257 Jordan Gysberts

17.065 Matthew Warnock

16.025 Nathan Jones

14.878 Cameron Bruce

9.680 Clint Bartram

8.211 Rohan Bail

8.073 Neville Jetta

7.921 Lynden Dunn

7.064 Brad Miller

4.752 Cale Morton

2.812 Joel Macdonald

2.453 Jack Watts

Despite having an OK game against Carlton, this is a testament to how Bruce is doing this year (i.e. poorly).


Or it's a testament to how biased posters are against him in general.

Yes, that would probably be more appropriate.

IIRC Bruce did well last year though.

Were Garland's frees against for ill-discipline? I don't remember any specific instances of him doing undisciplined acts this week.

Lack of discipline = lack of self-control. Sloppy tackles and hands-in-the-back that were caused by a poor mental approach to the task, i.e. taking the easy option (using hands, tackling high) and not having the ability to restrain himself. Just like Davey is undisciplined for not being able to control his temper when niggled.

Please cast your votes after you've dried out - 6,5,4,3,2,1 ...

Bit late with this but in any case:

6 - Gysberts - how often did this 2nd gamer 'get busy' while others sat back - Davey?????? Will he ever work out how to get on with going at the ball when tagged - will also add that some others need to get over and help him in this situation.

5 - Jamar - good to see above the comment 'gave Kruezer a lesson' MK will be a fine player but IMO is a bit like Nik Nat when the media talk about him and every little thing he does is viewed as 'class' - IMO this game should hold Russian in good stead for an All-Aus spot.

4 - Bruce - I have been a bit critical of Bruce, my mind is not made up but was his best game of the year

3 - Morton - better and better each week and even as this game went on - is a huge kid and so much upside to him.

2 - Grimes - another solid performance from Frank - love him

1 - Junior - led the way again - would've probably been higher had we won which is a bad argument on my own opinion really!

Anyone that put Davey in...come on!

 

Absolutely 100% spot on.

Davey has been playing for a long time, and has been getting close attention for years, and yet he still reacts like a 10 year old when somebody niggles him.

His behaviour yesterday was honestly pathetic for someone with his level of experience and someone who is in the leadership group. I've seen him do it in finals, and I've seen him do it during H&A matches.

Bailey dragged him numerous times yesterday and rightfully so. I'd consider dropping him this week for disciplinary reasons, if we weren't playing such a big important game. He set the worst example of anyone out on the field yesterday.

I agree he crumbles under a heavy tag. I think the coaching staff were trying to assist in breaking the tag by rotating him off the bench, more so than dragging him. I would want him out there this week.


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