Ball no longer a Saint, confirmed.

[beelzebub 23,348]

The journey of this bouncing Ball has gone a bit flat !!!

Edited November 5, 2009 by belzebub59

[Redleg 40,895]

I think he will come to terms with StK.

So do I, hence the thread. If I was him I would stay as well ( assuming they give him a reasonable offer).

[Rogue 585]

The ball is actually in Luke Ball's court (yeah sorry about that).

You should be

[Craig Drinker 179]

Because it's been suggested that Luke Ball would prefer to play at a team like Collingwood with good premiership prospects rather than at the wooden spooner.

In opposition to that it's been pointed out that Collingwood's premiership prospects in the short term are not all that good in view of the fact that the AFL has handed them a tougher fixture than usual for 2010.

A Collingwood supporter has responded by saying that his team's fixture in 2009 which included a return game against only one of the previous year's top four teams was monsterously tough and that they were courageous going into the finals this year with an injury riddled team (i.e. one or two players out of 46 missing).

I think that just about sums it all up.

Ok , why are we bothering to get involved in dialogue with a Collingwood supporter on here? Why do we have Collingwood supporters on here?

[jacey 333]

rather than at the wooden spooner.

It's been suggested that Luke Ball doesn't want to go through another slow rebuild but what slow rebuild has Luke Ball been through?

He was drafted in 2001, spent his first AFL season at school in 2002 and Stkilda was playing well end of 03 > they were genuine contenders premiers '04.

He came in halfway into Stkilda's rebuild and they were a force within 2 years of his arrival.

He will be coming halfway into Melbourne's rebuild. Step up or get the fark out.

[Guest The Old Xaverian]

Please answer my question...When did you last play Geelong at Geelong? Hmmmm.

It's hard to play Geelong at Geelong when Geelong's Number 1 fixture request each year is to play it's home game against Collingwood at the MCG. I'm disapointed though, our record against Geelong is pretty "choice" there, 41 games & we've won 23 of them (including 8 out of the last 10).

I don't how much Cameron Schwab would want to give up it's home game against Collingwood at the G each year, the same logic applies to Brian Cook & Geelong. Given our record at Kardinia & the fact that Collingwood has the most wins of a Victorian club travelling since 06', it is not such a great example on your part.

In the last 10 games Collingwood have played Geelong, we've won 6 of these games. Playing them less is a disadvantage to Collingwood.

Edited November 5, 2009 by The Old Xaverian

[old55 23,547]

In the last 10 games Collingwood have played Geelong, we've won 6 of these games. Playing them less is a disadvantage to Collingwood.

Indeed Collingwood has an enviable record in all aspects of the game except that last Saturday in September.

All those resources, all those opportunities and 1 flag in 50 years!

But those top 4 finishes make up for that though don't they

6-1

[Mono 455]

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In the last 10 games Collingwood have played Geelong, we've won 6 of these games. Playing them less is a disadvantage to Collingwood.

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[beelzebub 23,348]

It's hard to play Geelong at Geelong when Geelong's Number 1 fixture request each year is to play it's home game against Collingwood at the MCG. I'm disapointed though, our record against Geelong is pretty "choice" there, 41 games & we've won 23 of them (including 8 out of the last 10).

I don't how much Cameron Schwab would want to give up it's home game against Collingwood at the G each year, the same logic applies to Brian Cook & Geelong. Given our record at Kardinia & the fact that Collingwood has the most wins of a Victorian club travelling since 06', it is not such a great example on your part.

In the last 10 games Collingwood have played Geelong, we've won 6 of these games. Playing them less is a disadvantage to Collingwood.

spin it any way you like...you KNOW you'll get drubbed down there... you know it...we know it they know it.

cowardy cowardy custard !!!

The filth like it all on their terms... and good luck to you so far..Still even with all those advantages...all that pull...you still cant turn the trick. God...and you call us pathetic...lol with that sort of bias wed be melting the silverware with no where else to put it.

[Redleg 40,895]

cowardy cowardy custard !!!

Is their a recipe for that?

[Sir Why You Little 37,033]

It's hard to play Geelong at Geelong when Geelong's Number 1 fixture request each year is to play it's home game against Collingwood at the MCG. I'm disapointed though, our record against Geelong is pretty "choice" there, 41 games & we've won 23 of them (including 8 out of the last 10).

I don't how much Cameron Schwab would want to give up it's home game against Collingwood at the G each year, the same logic applies to Brian Cook & Geelong. Given our record at Kardinia & the fact that Collingwood has the most wins of a Victorian club travelling since 06', it is not such a great example on your part.

In the last 10 games Collingwood have played Geelong, we've won 6 of these games. Playing them less is a disadvantage to Collingwood.

None of those 10 Games have been at Kardinia Park though, so your answer is irrelevant.

I asked a specific questin....When did collingwood last play a game at kardinia Park. is it that hard to find an answer??

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,817]

Any chance the Mods can seperate the Collingwood and Luke Ball discussion.

I want to read about Ball not that filth of a club.

You'd have to say the odds for Luke Ball are:

Staying at St Kilda $1.80

Entering the ND $5.50

Choosing Melbourne $8.40

[flog 20]

It should be interesting to here what Dean Bailey has to say on this issue, he is on sen after 7.30. Hopefully we can get an answer and move on from this debate

[LITTLE STINGA 1]

It's hard to play Geelong at Geelong when Geelong's Number 1 fixture request each year is to play it's home game against Collingwood at the MCG. I'm disapointed though, our record against Geelong is pretty "choice" there, 41 games & we've won 23 of them (including 8 out of the last 10).

I don't how much Cameron Schwab would want to give up it's home game against Collingwood at the G each year, the same logic applies to Brian Cook & Geelong. Given our record at Kardinia & the fact that Collingwood has the most wins of a Victorian club travelling since 06', it is not such a great example on your part.

In the last 10 games Collingwood have played Geelong, we've won 6 of these games. Playing them less is a disadvantage to Collingwood.

When did this become magpieland? Ban this clown no one wants him on here.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

It hasn't. Opposition supporters are welcome on this site to discuss football topics so long as they abide by the Code of Conduct and dont lower the tenor of the site.

There are a couple of opposition supporters like Ash34 (Essendon) who provides excellent insights into MFC from another perspective. I value his contributions more than some of the MFC supporters here. Unfortunately Old Xaverian is not in that quality.

The best way to handle OX is to debate the issue with him. His hollow arguments has been brought undone so often by astute posters I am surprised more of you have not realised that instead of flaming who he supports.

[beelzebub 23,348]

only catching snippets of the SEN Bailey interview..but Bails thinks there's nada of him being a Dee.

So its dead in the water really. Bails wont have him if a reluctant recruit... and who would. If a player has no passion for this club then we dont want you .

[H_T 3,043]

It hasn't. Opposition supporters are welcome on this site to discuss football topics so long as they abide by the Code of Conduct and dont lower the tenor of the site.

There are a couple of opposition supporters like Ash34 (Essendon) who provides excellent insights into MFC from another perspective. I value his contributions more than some of the MFC supporters here. Unfortunately Old Xaverian is not in that quality.

The best way to handle OX is to debate the issue with him. His hollow arguments has been brought undone so often by astute posters I am surprised more of you have not realised that instead of flaming who he supports.

Agreed. Mr Magic (St Kilda) is another. There is another from Collingwood who provides good content and is most welcome (his/her username escapes me...I'm sure someone will recall him/her)

Edited November 5, 2009 by High Tower

[flog 20]

only catching snippets of the SEN Bailey interview..but Bails thinks there's nada of him being a Dee.

So its dead in the water really. Bails wont have him if a reluctant recruit... and who would. If a player has no passion for this club then we dont want you .

He didn't say there is no chance of ball coming to melbourne, infact he said they are still very keen. If ball told the club he didn't want to play with them but would nominate for the PD Bailey said they would not be interested in drafting him.

He said they are yet to meet with ball and his manager but they are confident if given the opportunity Ball will like what he sees.

All in all nothing new was really stated and Bailey just confirmed their interest in Ball is still alive.

Also said Blease has started light running and strauss has begun his weights program on his injured shoulder. Good signs

[beelzebub 23,348]

I confess ..didnt hear all of it.. just ..snippetts.. and more later.. Yes he said they were keen...said they had been from 2.00 pm on the 9th... but that despite all the communication toward Connors ( and hence Ball) that nothing has been returned. Yes Melbourne has interest...and Ball has none

[beelzebub 23,348]

I thought an interesting idea that was suggested is that Ball might hedge his intentions and remain at Stkilda on a years contract...then take the plane to Caloundra ! Some logic for that... He Wont get to Collingwood, he doesnt want us... he might well be seduced by money and sunshine

[titan_uranus 25,001]

Any chance the Mods can seperate the Collingwood and Luke Ball discussion.

I want to read about Ball not that filth of a club.

You'd have to say the odds for Luke Ball are:

Staying at St Kilda $1.80

Entering the ND $5.50

Choosing Melbourne $8.40

More like $55. No chance at all. He's not that stupid. It's St Kilda or Melbourne. Most likely St Kilda.

Agreed. Mr Magic (St Kilda) is another. There is another from Collingwood who provides good content and is most welcome (his/her username escapes me...I'm sure someone will recall him/her)

That would be DaVe86 I believe. Very balanced and open-minded Collingwood supporter. Writes a good preview whenever we play them.

[Redleg 40,895]

I thought an interesting idea that was suggested is that Ball might hedge his intentions and remain at Stkilda on a years contract...then take the plane to Caloundra !

He might prefer Coolangatta Airport if you are suggesting Gold Coast.

[Bails 0]

definitely wont be a demon!!!

that is for sure

[beelzebub 23,348]

He might prefer Coolangatta Airport if you are suggesting Gold Coast.

ah yes... got all Maroochydored there !!

lucky we have you Red...id be travelling to all the wrong places

[H_T 3,043]

That would be DaVe86 I believe. Very balanced and open-minded Collingwood supporter. Writes a good preview whenever we play them.

That's the one. Very good previews.