Melbourne v Sydney Swans

[titan_uranus 23,133]

Why are we playing Newton and Miller? I'd rather see all of Valenti, McKenzie, Bail and Cheney get a game.

Wouldn't make a difference to the result.

Robertson's career is all but over.

[Akum 2,660]

The injuries are considered legitimate. Why would you be angry? Wouldn't have anything to do with our 3-13 record would it? - On the back of last years 3-19 finish!

Heavens above.

Absolutely right HT! If this was Round 2, or if we were top 4, these guys still wouldn't be able to play.

There's a tendency to see tanking in everything when it's not there. Is dropping Robbo tanking? Or would it be tanking if we left him in the team? If you want to see evidence that we're tanking, you can see it anywhere you look.

As others have said, Green has an injury that has the potential to cause lots of trouble, and which is notoriously hard to detect in its early stages. He needs to be given every opportunity for this damn thing to heal, even on 198 games. Same principle applies to Grimes. And Brock apparently injured his knee against Port and played injured last week, and we all saw how he played - so did we tank last week by playing him injured against the best midfield in the comp???

You guys who want to see tanking everywhere, you're going to have a really enjoyable few weeks, because you'll see it everywhere no matter what happens. Have a great time. Those of you like me who want Scully just as badly but who want us to get him without selling our soul, rest assured that we haven't sold our soul (not yet, anyway). My hope is that whatever happens, in 2010 and beyond we'll be so far up the ladder that there will be no more tanking threads.

There's a huge difference between tanking and a dark cloud that happens to have a very clear silver lining!

Edited July 24, 2009 by Akum

[Jarka 767]

It’s all in the title

List management

green out for season

This is smart. Any players who require end of season surgery, send them off now. No point in waiting untill the end of the season, make sure they're ready to go for the start of next years pre-season.

[H_T 2,941]

Hahaha you sounnd like you work at the club. Have we all had the wool pulled over our eyes?

Read threads, some have heard that the injuries are on the money. Whilst some of the players might be able to play on. Why risk them of further damage in a season already lost? Better to operate and/or recuperate and be ready for a busy pre-season and important 2010.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Absolutely right HT! If this was Round 2, or if we were top 4, these guys still wouldn't be able to play.

There's a tendency to see tanking in everything when it's not there. Is dropping Robbo tanking? Or would it be tanking if we left him in the team? If you want to see evidence that we're tanking, you can see it anywhere you look.

As others have said, Green has an injury that has the potential to cause lots of trouble, and which is notoriously hard to detect in its early stages. He needs to be given every opportunity for this damn thing to heal, even on 198 games. Same principle applies to Grimes. And Brock apparently injured his knee against Port and played injured last week, and we all saw how he played - so did we tank last week by playing him injured against the best midfield in the comp???

You guys who want to see tanking everywhere, you're going to have a really enjoyable few weeks, because you'll see it everywhere no matter what happens. Have a great time. Those of you like me who want Scully just as badly but who want us to get him without selling our soul, rest assured that we haven't sold our soul (not yet, anyway). My hope is that whatever happens, in 2010 and beyond we'll be so far up the ladder that there will be no more tanking threads.

There's a huge difference between tanking and a dark cloud that happens to have a very clear silver lining!

Well put Akum..well put

[BLWNBA 380]

Valenti and cheney will definately play. Mckenzie has flown over as well but can't confirm if he is playing.

[titan_uranus 23,133]

Valenti and cheney will definately play. Mckenzie has flown over as well but can't confirm if he is playing.

They haven't flown over yet. I was just at Chadstone shopping centre and saw Frawley, Meesen, Cheney, Dunn and Johnson in a group. So they are still in Melbourne.

However, I hope that you are correct in saying that Valenti and Cheney will play. I really hope Cheney gets to play out the rest of the year.

[Carn dees 108]

Robertson's career is all but over.

No

[titan_uranus 23,133]

No

No what? This is the second time he's been dropped. I would say his time is almost up.

[Carn dees 108]

No what? This is the second time he's been dropped. I would say his time is almost up.

Fair enough, but facing the fact that robbo could be finished..... personally i hope he goes around one more time, i mean his our leading goal kicker and has played half as many games as all the other forwards, imagine what he could do with good midfielders and delivery.

One more year please!

[BLWNBA 380]

happy to admitt i was wrong about that then mate. From what i heard they'd left but i'm only going on what i've heard out of Casey. I'm positive about Valenti and Cheney however.

[titan_uranus 23,133]

happy to admitt i was wrong about that then mate. From what i heard they'd left but i'm only going on what i've heard out of Casey. I'm positive about Valenti and Cheney however.

I must admit, I was surprised to see them still here. I guess I would have expected them to have left by now. Must be leaving tomorrow morning.

Glad to see you're positive about Cheney. Love the kid. I've been scratching my head as to why he was dropped the last time. Look forward to seeing him play on Sunday.

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

I have an awful feeling that all this youth, coupled with a tanking Sydney at a neutral ground, is going to make this a closer game than many think...

[Mick 1]

happy to admitt i was wrong about that then mate. From what i heard they'd left but i'm only going on what i've heard out of Casey. I'm positive about Valenti and Cheney however.

3 posts admitting you were wrong...maybe go to confession?

[Akum 2,660]

3 posts admitting you were wrong...maybe go to confession?

Would that be Father Mick by any chance???

[godees 712]

he is right. here are the final ins/outs:

In: Cheney, P. Johnson, Miller, Newton, Valenti, Whelan, McKenzie

Out: Brock McLean (knee), Mark Jamar (quad), Brad Green (scaphoid), Jack Grimes (back), James Frawley (back), Neville Jetta (flu), Russell Robertson

I laughed when i saw it. tank you very much

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,441]

THE GREATEST DEES SIDE EVER

MELBOURNE v SYDNEY SWANS

Melbourne

B: Lynden Dunn, Matthew Warnock, Matthew Whelan

HB: Brent Moloney, Jared Rivers, Cameron Bruce

C: Clint Bartram, James McDonald, Aaron Davey

HF: Jamie Bennell, Michael Newton, Cale Morton

F: Brad Miller, Matthew Bate, Liam Jurrah

Foll: Stefan Martin, Ricky Petterd, Nathan Jones

I/C: Paul Johnson, Kyle Cheney, Jordie McKenzie, Shane Valenti

Emg: Rohan Bail, Jake Spencer, Simon Buckley

In: Cheney, P. Johnson, Miller, Newton, Valenti, Whelan, McKenzie

Out: Brock McLean (knee), Mark Jamar (quad), Brad Green (scaphoid), Jack Grimes (back), James Frawley (back), Neville Jetta (flu), Russell Robertson

New: Jordie McKenzie (Geelong Falcons)

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,601]

Frawley out now.

Oh my god it's now past obvious that we're tanking

If we win, Sydney have been lectured by Carlton on how to master the tank.

[H_T 2,941]

he is right. here are the final ins/outs:

In: Cheney, P. Johnson, Miller, Newton, Valenti, Whelan, McKenzie

Out: Brock McLean (knee), Mark Jamar (quad), Brad Green (scaphoid), Jack Grimes (back), James Frawley (back), Neville Jetta (flu), Russell Robertson

I laughed when i saw it. tank you very much

WOW 7 changes. Frawley & Jetta out. That would explain Frawley at Chadstone.

[Rogue 585]

I laughed when i saw it. tank you very much

Yeah, so did I.

That would explain Frawley at Chadstone.

Not really - Cheney, Dunn and Johnson were all there and they're playing

[H_T 2,941]

Not really - Cheney, Dunn and Johnson were all there and they're playing.

Yep. They would be going tomorrow, surely.

[Mousey 47]

Hopefully Bail still gets a go! Late change

[Axis of Bob 10,479]

I saw Frawley out of the team and laughed more than a little. I'm still smiling from it!

The good thing is that we have dropped so many this week that only dropping 2 or 3 decent players for next week's game will make it seem like we aren't really tanking. It's brilliant!!

[mauriesy 6,907]

I must admit, I was surprised to see them still here. I guess I would have expected them to have left by now. Must be leaving tomorrow morning.

Gee ... they're only going on a 45-minute flight to Canberra. Not as though they have to adjust to a time zone and get acclimatised or anything.

[beelzebub 22,704]

Canberra is a Time Warp...not a time zone