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Would anyone be intrested in trading for him with our second round pick? get 2 mids with first two picks and a forward and our depth is looking good. In saying this the jury is out on whether the tomahawk is bona fide footballer.

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Would anyone be intrested in trading for him with our second round pick? get 2 mids with first two picks and a forward and our depth is looking good. In saying this the jury is out on whether the tomahawk is bona fide footballer.

Why would Geelong let him go? Why would any club advance the premiership prospects of another? The bugger can't kick anyway.

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Would anyone be intrested in trading for him with our second round pick? get 2 mids with first two picks and a forward and our depth is looking good. In saying this the jury is out on whether the tomahawk is bona fide footballer.

The jury is out on whether Geelong even want to contemplate not keeping him?

What makes you think this?

Let me guess, you listened to SEN earlier at a disgruntled supporter, saying Hawkins should go, because he did nothing against StKilda?

Am I right? ;)

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He is worse than Michael Newton.

And Im not kidding.

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He is worse than Michael Newton.

And Im not kidding.

Yet we seem to be the only team he plays well against.

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The jury is out on whether Geelong even want to contemplate not keeping him?

What makes you think this?

Let me guess, you listened to SEN earlier at a disgruntled supporter, saying Hawkins should go, because he did nothing against StKilda?

Am I right? ;)

no I didn't but there are no KPP players that look good this year and I am trying to find a way to get one that is half decent. Cats may get rid of him if they think that their first round pick from last year (brown) is up to it, the raps on him are good before he broke his leg.


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Yet we seem to be the only team he plays well against.

Not really, even in the game where he got five most people's grannies could have kicked three of them.

He is a first-order spud and has failed to produce despite numerous opportunities and concessions.

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no I didn't but there are no KPP players that look good this year and I am trying to find a way to get one that is half decent. Cats may get rid of him if they think that their first round pick from last year (brown) is up to it, the raps on him are good before he broke his leg.

Ok. At the moment Hawkins isn't even half decent.

Here are a few that are half decent, but are they worth pursuing or would the opposition clubs let them even go?: -

Josh Hill

Mitchell Clark

Barry Hall

Sean Rusling

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Ok. At the moment Hawkins isn't even half decent.

Josh Hill

Mitchell Clark

Barry Hall

Sean Rusling

Hawkins need to get fitter. Can't beat defenders with workrate. Doesn't exactly have pace to burn oppostion, can't monster kids as everyone's just as strong in the AFL, hands aren't the great, kicking worse then Newton's.

Geelong's at a stage where they just have to persist with him. He won't be worth a cracker.

Josh Hill's not a KPP. Nice leap and hands. Jurrah like.

Mitch Clark's a goodie. Think his WA so not much go home factor. Lions have invested heavily in him and will be asking for Pick 1 and 2. Won't even do it for pick 2.

Hall's done. Mentally shot. NO.

Rusling. Physically shot. Big NO.

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Mitch Clark's a goodie. Think his WA so not much go home factor. Lions have invested heavily in him and will be asking for Pick 1 and 2.

Jeez, he's not that good. Carlton didn't give up that much for Judd.

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We're going to be digging around in the dumpster if we're looking for an experienced forward. No team is going to part with a forward without mental/physical problems for peanuts. We have very little to offer that we can afford to give away. Trading the kids or draft picks is counter-productive at this point. Without digging into our youth or picks from the first three rounds, you're looking at your Adam Campbell types. We already have forwards who aren't AFL standard and I don't see the point in adding to that stockpile. Continue to put the development into Watts, Jurrah and Martin thanks. We're at least 2 years away from finals, we should build the forwardline through the draft and our internal development.

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QUOTE (High Tower @ Jul 6 2009, 02:15 PM) *

Ok. At the moment Hawkins isn't even half decent.

Josh Hill

Mitchell Clark

Barry Hall

Sean Rusling

Hill Would be nice but we have no chance

Clark would be very nice but we also have no chance

Hall is an interesting one. Would easily be in our best 22 for probably 2 years. Has his issues but seems to be well liked by his teammates and is probably a good bloke off the field. I could definately see Watts and Morton and probably a few others walking a little taller with him around. If we could get him for nothing i'd certainly consider it.

Rusling would be a definate for me. Has awesome pace which could make us very difficult to match up on combined with our other quick forwards. If he gets his body right could be an excellent player and if he doesn't he is still as useful as Newton and not much worse than Dunn.

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If Geelong were willing! Yes I would trade Pick 18 for him without a doubt.

He hasnt set the comp on fire but he is young, definitely has the potential and is a monster of a lad. Give him a new environment to improve his game and I think you will see great improvement. Make Full Forward his own at the Dee's woud be fantastic but doubt that would happen!

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hawkins only chance to make it is if he gets angry. he needs to bully players around, push, pull and muscle. if he wants to last he needs to use his bulk, find some aggression and dominate using his strengths. he isn't built like reiwoldt so nobody should expect him to play like that.

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Hawkins is a dud. NO WAY. It trade for Clark and Hill though. Rusling is worse than Rivers when it comes to injury and Hall is too old and won't be around when our next chance to play finals comes around.

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Hawkins is a dud. NO WAY. It trade for Clark and Hill though. Rusling is worse than Rivers when it comes to injury and Hall is too old and won't be around when our next chance to play finals comes around.

Spot on!!

How can anyone struggle in a team like Geelong? It is a bit of a worry when you can't get a kick in a team like geelong, especially in the forward line.


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Hall would be interesting, gives the young players a go too as when he gets rubbed out every now and then, the young guys get to step up for a week or two (or more). He has a decent workrate on field too which would be good for some of the kids to learn. Only be worth a punt if he comes for nothing and is willing to get almost minimum wage. Costs of him though are probably a bit much.

A problem is if he gets frustrated playing for Sydney, with our current disposal into the forward line, he could end up killing someone on-field!

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Josh Hill

Mitchell Clark

Barry Hall

Sean Rusling

Of those, if you are going to ask for Josh Hill, may has well have a shot at Higgins. Unfortunately with both - no chance.

Mitch Clark was a top 10 draft pick a few years ago and I think Brisbane are more than happy with him.

No interest in Hall, and if Rusling is any chance of recovering from his injuries, he'll stay at Collingwood. More of a mid-sized forward anyway.

Depending on the strength of the draft, Hawkins for our second round pick would be well worth considering. Still not yet 21 for 197cm key forward.

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i have some early whispers that Jamie Charman will be on Melbournes shopping list come the end of the season.

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i have some early whispers that Jamie Charman will be on Melbournes shopping list come the end of the season.

big no for me, interested in matt mcquire, cant get into saints side at all and very talented

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big no for me, interested in matt mcquire, cant get into saints side at all and very talented

The question there would be whether he can play forward. Was tried in that role a bit for Sandringham earlier in the season but I'm not sure of how successfully.

I think his closing speed is a bit of a concern for a key defender - excellent contested mark however.

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