Jump to content

Wonaeamirri no one-hit wonder


Guest melbman

Recommended Posts

he looked outstanding at training yesterday.

The thing that impressed me the most last year was the fact he knows where to run to, and can actually kick the damn thing! He finds best position, in close and out in space nearly every time.

I'm really excited about Woenna, I reckon he's going to tear it up this year

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The thing that impressed me the most last year was the fact he knows where to run to, and can actually kick the damn thing! He finds best position, in close and out in space nearly every time.

I'm really excited about Woenna, I reckon he's going to tear it up this year

Totally agree, even after he burst onto the seen his ability to find considerable space was unbelievable. Surely this was not arrogance from opporsition sides rather his ability loose his direct opponent and play as an impact player for us.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Totally agree, even after he burst onto the seen his ability to find considerable space was unbelievable. Surely this was not arrogance from opporsition sides rather his ability loose his direct opponent and play as an impact player for us.

And the fact he did it off such a low fitness base gives me the most hope

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Without reading too much into things, I think this is a really good reflection upon the club and players also. They have obviously provided Wona with a comfortable, supportive environment which has enabled him to progress as an individual within the group and as a player professionally. Hopefully this same environment and support will draw the same benefits from our new recruits.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


Totally agree, even after he burst onto the seen his ability to find considerable space was unbelievable. Surely this was not arrogance from opporsition sides rather his ability loose his direct opponent and play as an impact player for us.

Wona's efforts in his first season were creditable and he was rightly elevated onto the main list.

However, there is no doubt that as an uplifted rookie in a bottom dwelling club he flew under many sides radar and he was not given the respect from opponents that more experienced players would normally get. He cannot expect to get the same latitude this year.

Its great he has greater fitness and he needs to maintain that because he will need it if he is to continue to improve at AFL level.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Wona's efforts in his first season were creditable and he was rightly elevated onto the main list.

However, there is no doubt that as an uplifted rookie in a bottom dwelling club he flew under many sides radar and he was not given the respect from opponents that more experienced players would normally get. He cannot expect to get the same latitude this year.

Fair call, but I'm sure you would agree some players just have an ability to loose their direct opponent more so then others.

After 3 or 4 good even great games last year he had heavy media coverage and I can't accept that teams would have been unprofessional and arrogant and not man up on wonna. No nietz, no robbo, no davey forward, miller and wonna would have been the 1st 2 forwards i would have been looking at as an opporstition coach in the 2nd half of the season yet He still was able to find increadable space. Hopefully increase fitness will allow him to become more then just an impact player for us in 09.

Re latitude this year if our best 22 generally stay fit and a couple of this years draft come through you never know he could be given a little more lattitude then he faced in my eyes last year. But i do agree if he repeats much of last years heroics he can expect a full time shadow. I know this is contradictory but either case could prevaile - form, team balance, opporsition strengths etc are all factors

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Fair call, but I'm sure you would agree some players just have an ability to loose their direct opponent more so then others.

They do. But often there were times when Wonna was found on his well clear in the forward line which often reflects that his direct opponent has exploited his lack of stamina and run off him in the effort to provide a forward attack from defence.

After 3 or 4 good even great games last year he had heavy media coverage and I can't accept that teams would have been unprofessional and arrogant and not man up on wonna. No nietz, no robbo, no davey forward, miller and wonna would have been the 1st 2 forwards i would have been looking at as an opporstition coach in the 2nd half of the season yet He still was able to find increadable space. Hopefully increase fitness will allow him to become more then just an impact player for us in 09.

Gee do you think opposition sides read the paper and say "Hey we must watch out for him!!!"? Its not a matter of not manning up but it will often be the opportunity to exploit a young inexperienced player by gaining possessions and launching attacks for your side. BTW, the opponent you would necessarily play on Wonna would not be different whether Neitz, Miller or Robbo were playing. Truth is they play different positions. I think sides will be less ambitious with their offensive zoning in defense on him.

His increased fitness should allow him if the opportunity presents itself to be more of an impact player more often. He will play FP which is very difficult position to play week in week out. He needs more than one pre season to be a contender for the midfield.

Re latitude this year if our best 22 generally stay fit and a couple of this years draft come through you never know he could be given a little more lattitude then he faced in my eyes last year. But i do agree if he repeats much of last years heroics he can expect a full time shadow. I know this is contradictory but either case could prevaile - form, team balance, opporsition strengths etc are all factors

Wona will be subject to more defensive pressure this year regardless.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Wona will be subject to more defensive pressure this year regardless.

Agree with everything else rhino, but "regardless" is not right for me. Subject to form, team balance, position etc are more likely to dictate the amount of negative pressure and attention he receives.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Agree with everything else rhino, but "regardless" is not right for me. Subject to form, team balance, position etc are more likely to dictate the amount of negative pressure and attention he receives.

Given the freedom he got last year from team he really could not get any less pressure.

Teams know that if they give him to much room he has the poise and balance to make the most of those opportunities. Competent oppositions will close those loop holes. Its that simple.

You are expecting too much too soon from a young team if you think Wonna will get the luxury of slipping away often.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Given the freedom he got last year from team he really could not get any less pressure.

I don't quite go along with that. By mid season opposition teams were sitting on him, which is one of the reasons he started to significantly wane in his output. Plus his weight and fitness levels.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I don't quite go along with that. By mid season opposition teams were sitting on him, which is one of the reasons he started to significantly wane in his output. His weight and fitness levels.

I think we are on the same track. His lack of fitness last year which was understandable with no pre season also took its toll. And certainly the light cover he had in his early games was somewhat closer as the year went on.

I would suggest this year his fitness will be tested early and if found wanting then oppositions will work him hard then run off him as he tires.

Interesting to watch nevertheless.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

They do. But often there were times when Wonna was found on his well clear in the forward line which often reflects that his direct opponent has exploited his lack of stamina and run off him in the effort to provide a forward attack from defence.

No Doubt, but as a forward, the most important weapon is instinct, and wonna has it in spades. Opposition can combat many things, fitness, stratergy, form, but they can never plan for natural instinct.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

No Doubt, but as a forward, the most important weapon is instinct, and wonna has it in spades. Opposition can combat many things, fitness, stratergy, form, but they can never plan for natural instinct.

Bingo - Natural instinct or as I was discussing earlier a component of this is the ability to loose your opponent. yes his impact lessend for the reasons outlined already as the year went on but he still had an ability to find a huge amount of space all the way to the end of the season at times. As Rhino put it before he will be one very interesting player to watch this year, especially off the ball work.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

No Doubt, but as a forward, the most important weapon is instinct, and wonna has it in spades. Opposition can combat many things, fitness, stratergy, form, but they can never plan for natural instinct.

They dont have to directly.

All player play with some level of natural instincts.Its a given. They are not robots. The issue is what actions/responses does the player exhibit through his natural instincts in a game situation (eg where and how he leads, the way he prefers to mark, what he will do with ball in different parts of the ground and what he does when he does not have the ball) . If the actions are predictable or repetitive or they highlight a weakness then a good coach will combat that in an instant.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


Guest JACKtheRIPPER
They dont have to directly.

All player play with some level of natural instincts.Its a given. They are not robots. The issue is what actions/responses does the player exhibit through his natural instincts in a game situation (eg where and how he leads, the way he prefers to mark, what he will do with ball in different parts of the ground and what he does when he does not have the ball) . If the actions are predictable or repetitive or they highlight a weakness then a good coach will combat that in an instant.

i hope your not coaching against him rhino, you seem to now how to hold him.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

They dont have to directly.

All player play with some level of natural instincts.Its a given. They are not robots. The issue is what actions/responses does the player exhibit through his natural instincts in a game situation (eg where and how he leads, the way he prefers to mark, what he will do with ball in different parts of the ground and what he does when he does not have the ball) . If the actions are predictable or repetitive or they highlight a weakness then a good coach will combat that in an instant.

agreed and of course they are not robots, but i think it is fair to say that some players lack natural football instincts, i mean we have a players in our side who in my opinion are not natural instintive football types. i think Wonna is, and instincts can mean the difference between his type (crumbing forward) making a difference in a game. His natural instincts in a game may very well means he leads to a spot where the ball does not end up, that he handballs to the wrong spot, that he ends up out of the play when he does not have the ball, but his instincts usually net him goals or our team goals, and that is very hard to coach against!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If he is really fit and firing, this is also a plus as the opposition will have to put a better backman on him which hopefully free's up robbo, miller from getting double teamed and this might make things a bit easier for the other forwards but it will depended on how far he has come along a long way I hope.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Really pleased to read that he has knuckled down over the pre-season and feels stronger as well as slimmer. Also pleasing to read that many back in the Territory are jumping on board Melbourne in their support for Aussie and the club.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

agreed and of course they are not robots, but i think it is fair to say that some players lack natural football instincts, i mean we have a players in our side who in my opinion are not natural instintive football types. i think Wonna is, and instincts can mean the difference between his type (crumbing forward) making a difference in a game. His natural instincts in a game may very well means he leads to a spot where the ball does not end up, that he handballs to the wrong spot, that he ends up out of the play when he does not have the ball, but his instincts usually net him goals or our team goals, and that is very hard to coach against!

Its often referred to as football ability and skill and I agree with you that footballers have differing amounts.

Wonna is still on a long education curve while coming off a good base to do so.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Really pleased to read that he has knuckled down over the pre-season and feels stronger as well as slimmer. Also pleasing to read that many back in the Territory are jumping on board Melbourne in their support for Aussie and the club.

Enough for a Major Sponsorship deal like Hawthorn perhaps?

$3 million deal with Northern Territory... Wouldn't it be nice? :P

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    PREGAME: Rd 13 vs Collingwood

    The Demons head back to Melbourne after an embarrassing loss to the Dockers to take on the Magpies at the MCG on Kings Birthday. With a calf injury to Lachie Hunter and Jacob van Rooyen possibly returning from injury who comes in and who goes out?  

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 95

    PODCAST: Rd 12 vs Fremantle

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 3rd June @ 8:30pm. Join George, Binman & I as we dissect the Demons embarrasing loss to Fremantle in Alice Springs. You questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human. Listen & Chat LIVE: ht

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 27

    VOTES: Rd 12 vs Fremantle

    Captain Max Gawn has a considerable lead over reigning champion Christian Petracca in the Demonland Player of the Year Award. Steven May, Alex Neal-Bullen & Jack Viney make up the Top 5. Your votes for the embarrassing loss against the Dockers. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 31

    POSTGAME: Rd 12 vs Fremantle

    The Demons were blown out of the water and were absolutely embarrassing against the Fremantle Dockers in Alice Springs ultimately going down by 92 points and getting bundled out of the Top 8 for the first time since 2020.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 400

    GAMEDAY: Rd 12 vs Fremantle

    It's Game Day and the Demons and the Dockers meet on halfway on neutral territory in the heart of the country in Alice Springs and the Dees need to win to hold onto a place in the Top 4.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 772

    TROUBLE by The Oracle

    Situated roughly in Australia's geographic centre, Alice Springs has for many years been a troubled town suffering from intermittent crime waves, particularly among its younger residents. There was a time a little while ago when things were so bad that some even doubted the annual AFL game in the town would proceed.  Now, the hope is that this Sunday’s Melbourne vs Fremantle encounter will bring joy to the residents of the town and that through the sport and the example of the participants,

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    Welcome to Demonland: Luker Kentfield

    With the Melbourne Football Club's first pick in the 2024 AFL Mid-Season Draft and pick number 11 overall the Demon's selected Western Australian key forward Luker Kentfield from Subiaco.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 245

    TRAINING: Tuesday 28th May 2024

    Veteran Demonland Trackwatcher Kev Martin returned to the training track to bring you the following observations from Gosch's Paddock this morning. Beautiful morning for training. The dew has dried, out from AAMI, quiet chatting. Maysie does his heart symbol. 7 in rehab, Turner, Hore, Sestan, BBB, Petty, Spargo and Schache. All in runners. Melky weighted and change of angles work. Salem has his individual program. White cap (no contact), Howes, Woewodin and Sparrow

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    GALLANT by KC from Casey

    The world “gallant” is not one that is readily acceptable to losing teams in our game of football so when it was used in the context of the Casey Demons’ loss to Sandringham in yesterday’s match at Casey Fields, it left a bitter taste in the mouth.  The Demons went into the game against the St Kilda affiliated Zebras with the advantage of playing on their home turf (not that this has been a major asset in 2024) and with very little else going in their favour. The Saints have close to a full

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!
×
×
  • Create New...