You risk wasting a draft pick if you get Lovey as if he is naughty he may end up hurt or in jail.

Colin Sylvia as a straight swap would be worth it.

Sylvia is the Ds version of Courtney Johns without the major injuries but with the niggling ones.

your a twit mate! colin is just starting to get going while lovett won an anzac medal and made us all think he is going to be a superstar! no instead he bashes girls and gets [censored] the night before training!

sylvias hardness>>>>> lovetts pussyness

? Can you name a non-Essendon or Collingwood player that has!

Just pointing out Lovett has proven himself to be a watch winner at AFL.

Has Sylvia even played in a winning Demons team?

Has Sylvia even played in a winning Demons team?

Ouch.

Don't think we'll be looking for another off-field problem. But I do like the way he plays.

That sums it up nicely Titan.

Just pointing out Lovett has proven himself to be a watch winner at AFL.

Has Sylvia even played in a winning Demons team?

How many watches has he won?

25 matches won for Sylvia, 20 wins for Lovett. Given Sylvia started a year earlier i'll take ALL of his 2004 wins away.

Sylvia wins 24 to Lovett's 20

Just pointing out Lovett has proven himself to be a watch winner at AFL.

Has Sylvia even played in a winning Demons team?

I can count 3 this year for a start...... which maybe close to someone's IQ.

your a twit mate! colin is just starting to get going while lovett won an anzac medal and made us all think he is going to be a superstar! no instead he bashes girls and gets [censored] the night before training!

sylvias hardness>>>>> lovetts pussyness

Slyvia isn't a hard player, he is a sniper and has no football brain.

He goes in when it suits him and as a footballer Lovett is actually a better player than Slyvia.

If you think Slyvia is just starting to get going you'll be disappointed and be in tears cause he's not going to get better. He is the Ds version of Coutney Johns and all his fans make up all these excuses, fact is he and Courtney will be great second/third tier league players. Can't cut it at AFL level.

Slyvia isn't a hard player, he is a sniper and has no football brain.

He goes in when it suits him and as a footballer Lovett is actually a better player than Slyvia.

If you think Slyvia is just starting to get going you'll be disappointed and be in tears cause he's not going to get better. He is the Ds version of Coutney Johns and all his fans make up all these excuses, fact is he and Courtney will be great second/third tier league players. Can't cut it at AFL level.

Thats a big call Jim!!! Im no Sylvia lover but i do think he will end up a better player than Johns

Sylvia isn't a hard player, he is a sniper and has no football brain.

Incorrect.

Thats a big call Jim!!! Im no Sylvia lover but i do think he will end up a better player than Johns

Yes, I think Diamond Jim has a screw loose if he thinks Sylvia isn't hard at the ball and the man. Courtney Johns is already on the scrap heap as far as I'm concerned. And for the record, Sylvia has been a better player than Johns already.

If you think Sylvia can't cut it at AFL level, you're sadly mistaken. He is already cutting it up Jimbo. And as for Lovett, he hasn't got long to go until he drifts off into the sunset.

Incorrect.

Yes, I think Diamond Jim has a screw loose if he thinks Sylvia isn't hard at the ball and the man. Courtney Johns is already on the scrap heap as far as I'm concerned. And for the record, Sylvia has been a better player than Johns already.

If you think Sylvia can't cut it at AFL level, you're sadly mistaken. He is already cutting it up Jimbo. And as for Lovett, he hasn't got long to go until he drifts off into the sunset.

Sylvia is the Ds version of Courtney Johns -all show and no go.

Lovett is a much better footballer and Sylvia as trade bait should be considered but I think all the AFL sides think the same as I do with him.

ANDREW LOVETT

Year Team No. Games (W-D-L) Kicks Marks H.Balls Disp Goals Bhd H.O. Tack FrF FrA BM

2005 Essendon 41 20 (8-0-12) 189 78 95 284 25 11 46 17 10 5

2006 Essendon 13 13 (2-1-10) 131 61 69 200 17 18 29 4 10 1

2007 Essendon 13 16 (5-0-11) 182 86 90 272 16 11 34 14 11

2008 Essendon 13 17 (5-0-12) 204 73 106 310 14 8 47 14 14

Totals 66 (20-1-45) 706 298 360 1066 72 48 156 49 45 6

Game highs 19 10 10 27 5 4 9 3 3

COLIN SYLVIA

Year Team No. Games (W-D-L) Kicks Marks H.Balls Disp Goals Bhd H.O. Tack FrF FrA BM

2004 Melbourne 12 3 (1-0-2) 6 2 4 10 1 5

2005 Melbourne 12 16 (9-0-7) 129 64 52 181 8 5 2 25 11 16

2006 Melbourne 12 17 (9-1-7) 142 68 66 208 10 6 1 53 12 15

2007 Melbourne 12 16 (4-0-12) 136 68 73 209 12 7 12 47 17 15

2008 Melbourne 12 18 (2-0-16) 197 119 123 320 16 9 23 50 15 16

Totals 70 (25-1-44) 610 321 318 928 47 27 38 180 55 62

Game highs 21 12 15 25 4 3 4 10 3 4

You decide. Season 2008 is an accurate reflection of where both players are at. It shows Sylvia is on the improve where as Lovett was steady but had only 22 scoring shots - down on his previous 3 years. Sylvia was up even though Bailey played him down back earlier in the season.

I'm warming to the prospect of Lovett each day

we need pace and a ruckman, and somehow we've got to get Vickery in the draft. get another first round pick. then get blease with 17 or zaharakis. but lovett would bolster the stocks, and we could trade to get him

Lovett is a tool! The guy's head is messed up. Let someone else take a risk on him.

i don't care if he's a tool

coling sylvia is a massive tool and a woman basher...still at our club.

brad green is a tool as well, but still like him as a footy player. im not mates with these people..they're footy players

A step backwards I reckon.

brad green is a tool as well

why the hate on Brad Green ? What has he ever done ??

A switched on Andrew Lovett playing 22 games next year would be a tremendous acquistion for the club.

A troubled and undisciplined Andrew Lovett would be a total disaster.

If the crystal ball told me that Lovett had reformed his ways, then I'd trade pick 19 for him.

he'll be fine, good mate with aaron davey, he'll settle in nicely.

green is just a bit of a tool..v big ego, and can guarentee you that money was an issue in the contract negotiations.

which is why, as nudgey reported, clubs had offered him more, and the contract was at a stalemate, so they gave him the 3 years.

No thankyou!

No thankyou!

Would entertain a trade 4 Nathan Carroll & pick 83.

I'd trade Bell, Bode and Weetra for him. They're young, so they fit in with the Dons' youth policy, but they're not worth much. Sort of a dime-a-dozen trade.

green is just a bit of a tool..v big ego, and can guarentee you that money was an issue in the contract negotiations.

How dare he bring up money during a contract negatiation.