Jump to content


Recommended Posts

Posted

I am super impressed with Dean Bailey.

Probably one of the major criticisms of Neale Daniher was the fact that he persevered with players whose behaviours did not reflect the club we wanted to be, whether those behaviours were attitudinal or skills-based. We wanted ruthlessness.

On the other hand, Dean Bailey seems to have an almost uncompromising attitude that the club and its players will do things the way he wants them done, or he will drop them. Key position youth is developing at a rate better than I can ever remember, because it is clear that Dean is focused on being a great teacher.

Take Nathan Jones. He will learn so much from being dropped after having had his most possessions all year. Jonesy is clearly a competitive beast, so this will be a tremendous opportunity for him to understand what is expected from him. The same thing happened to CJ, who had to earn a game, and Miller, who was backed to the hilt by Bailey. Having had the opportunity to speak to a few of the players recently, I know also that Dean demands "smarts" from his players and makes the players do substantial homework on the opposition.

Where Ross Lyon dropped 2 players for 1 week on the back of pressure from the media, Dean Bailey has gone about doing things his own way quietly and effectively. I know we're not there yet, and of course I see some weakness in Dean. But as long as the club "sticks fat", I think we have an extremely exciting opportunity in the next few years.

Posted
and of course I see some weakness in Dean.

His hair maybe thin, but that's a bit harsh.

Posted
I am super impressed with Dean Bailey.

Probably one of the major criticisms of Neale Daniher was the fact that he persevered with players whose behaviours did not reflect the club we wanted to be, whether those behaviours were attitudinal or skills-based. We wanted ruthlessness.

On the other hand, Dean Bailey seems to have an almost uncompromising attitude that the club and its players will do things the way he wants them done, or he will drop them. Key position youth is developing at a rate better than I can ever remember, because it is clear that Dean is focused on being a great teacher.

Take Nathan Jones. He will learn so much from being dropped after having had his most possessions all year. Jonesy is clearly a competitive beast, so this will be a tremendous opportunity for him to understand what is expected from him. The same thing happened to CJ, who had to earn a game, and Miller, who was backed to the hilt by Bailey. Having had the opportunity to speak to a few of the players recently, I know also that Dean demands "smarts" from his players and makes the players do substantial homework on the opposition.

Where Ross Lyon dropped 2 players for 1 week on the back of pressure from the media, Dean Bailey has gone about doing things his own way quietly and effectively. I know we're not there yet, and of course I see some weakness in Dean. But as long as the club "sticks fat", I think we have an extremely exciting opportunity in the next few years.

Include me in for the time being. :rolleyes:
Posted

I'm in.

I love his approach to games and hard facts. He's rarely making excuses like a number of other coaches.

Posted

I've been a critic of DB, and remain so.

It's the easiest job in the world to be a coach of a side that has no expectations of winning. Let's see how he's going in years 2 and 3, when there's pressure on the team to win, and the wolves are out.

Three years out of the finals is something that this club can't financially afford.

Posted
I've been a critic of DB, and remain so.

It's the easiest job in the world to be a coach of a side that has no expectations of winning.

That's NQR your opinion. The team and coach go into each week expecting to try their best in order to win and get the 4 points.

For the record, I'm in also Choko.

Posted
That's NQR your opinion. The team and coach go into each week expecting to try their best in order to win and get the 4 points.

For the record, I'm in also Choko.

I'm not talking about the coach and players' expectations. I'm referring to the greater football world, ie; media, supporters, board members.

Bailey has yet to experience any of this pressure. Matty Knights was copping it from the media and supporters earlier in the year, even though he's a 1st year coach. To date, Bailey has had it easy.


Posted
I'm not talking about the coach and players' expectations. I'm referring to the greater football world, ie; media, supporters, board members.

Bailey has yet to experience any of this pressure. Matty Knights was copping it from the media and supporters earlier in the year, even though he's a 1st year coach. To date, Bailey has had it easy.

Could not be further from the facts.

Bailey has indeed been under the blow torch by the media particularly after the first two rounds when we got flogged. At least there are some smarter souls in the media who actually realise the train wreck that Bailey has inherited and could at least understand what he is trying to do with seriously undermanned youth ridden list. The smarter media hacks realise where things are at with MFC.

In addition, Bailey has had to contend with sub AFL training facilities with a completely disstabilised Board structure and Football executive and the Club's financial position and future being dissected in the media daily. MFC in its 150 year has been a complete rabble off the field and a media laughing stock in many respects.

Knights has yet to experience any of that pressure.

Hasn't Bailey had it easy! :lol: Amazing.

Posted

As far as the first 2/3rds of the season goes... he has an emphatic pass mark from most people... myself included... But one fact remains.

He has 2 wins on the board. Clearly this is not his fault. But I will offer him more credence when he starts showing signs of breeding a team that strikes fear into the hearts of teams, and supporters alike...

This will clearly take another year of bottoming out IF WE'RE LUCKY. So with a bit of luck, he'll be given the opportunity to stick around after the pain of 2008.

The thing that gives me hope is how he's handled himself in one of the worst seasons by a single team in years... If he's this resolute and strong now, imagine him when we're a finals chance?

Go you good thing DB.

Posted
I'm not talking about the coach and players' expectations. I'm referring to the greater football world, ie; media, supporters, board members.

You posted, "of a side that has no expectations of winning" - now how on earth is it meant to be interpreted as to what you are now referring to?

<_<

Posted
I've been a critic of DB, and remain so.

It's the easiest job in the world to be a coach of a side that has no expectations of winning. Let's see how he's going in years 2 and 3, when there's pressure on the team to win, and the wolves are out.

Three years out of the finals is something that this club can't financially afford.

easy job ?

no expectations ?

no pressure ?

and i thought YM's constant degrading of Cameron Bruce was the boards most biased critic

you win hands down

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    TRAINING: Friday 22nd November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers were out in force on a scorching morning out at Gosch's Paddock for the final session before the whole squad reunites for the Preseason Training Camp. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS It’s going to be a scorcher today but I’m in the shade at Gosch’s Paddock ready to bring you some observations from the final session before the Preseason Training Camp next week.  Salem, Fritsch & Campbell are already on the track. Still no number on Campbell’s

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 3

    UP IN LIGHTS by Whispering Jack

    Those who watched the 2024 Marsh AFL National Championships closely this year would not be particularly surprised that Melbourne selected Victoria Country pair Harvey Langford and Xavier Lindsay on the first night of the AFL National Draft. The two left-footed midfielders are as different as chalk and cheese but they had similar impacts in their Coates Talent League teams and in the National Championships in 2024. Their interstate side was edged out at the very end of the tournament for tea

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features

    TRAINING: Wednesday 20th November 2024

    It’s a beautiful cool morning down at Gosch’s Paddock and I’ve arrived early to bring you my observations from today’s session. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Reigning Keith Bluey Truscott champion Jack Viney is the first one out on the track.  Jack’s wearing the red version of the new training guernsey which is the only version available for sale at the Demon Shop. TRAINING: Viney, Clarry, Lever, TMac, Rivers, Petty, McVee, Bowey, JVR, Hore, Tom Campbell (in tr

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Monday 18th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers ventured down to Gosch's Paddock for the final week of training for the 1st to 4th Years until they are joined by the rest of the senior squad for Preseason Training Camp in Mansfield next week. WAYNE RUSSELL'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS No Ollie, Chin, Riv today, but Rick & Spargs turned up and McDonald was there in casual attire. Seston, and Howes did a lot of boundary running, and Tom Campbell continued his work with individual trainer in non-MFC

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #11 Max Gawn

    Champion ruckman and brilliant leader, Max Gawn earned his seventh All-Australian team blazer and constantly held the team up on his shoulders in what was truly a difficult season for the Demons. Date of Birth: 30 December 1991 Height: 209cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 224 Goals MFC 2024: 11 Career Total: 109 Brownlow Medal Votes: 13 Melbourne Football Club: 2nd Best & Fairest: 405 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 12

    2024 Player Reviews: #36 Kysaiah Pickett

    The Demons’ aggressive small forward who kicks goals and defends the Demons’ ball in the forward arc. When he’s on song, he’s unstoppable but he did blot his copybook with a three week suspension in the final round. Date of Birth: 2 June 2001 Height: 171cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 106 Goals MFC 2024: 36 Career Total: 161 Brownlow Medal Votes: 3 Melbourne Football Club: 4th Best & Fairest: 369 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    TRAINING: Friday 15th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers took advantage of the beautiful sunshine to head down to Gosch's Paddock and witness the return of Clayton Oliver to club for his first session in the lead up to the 2025 season. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Clarry in the house!! Training: JVR, McVee, Windsor, Tholstrup, Woey, Brown, Petty, Adams, Chandler, Turner, Bowey, Seston, Kentfield, Laurie, Sparrow, Viney, Rivers, Jefferson, Hore, Howes, Verrall, AMW, Clarry Tom Campbell is here

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #7 Jack Viney

    The tough on baller won his second Keith 'Bluey' Truscott Trophy in a narrow battle with skipper Max Gawn and Alex Neal-Bullen and battled on manfully in the face of a number of injury niggles. Date of Birth: 13 April 1994 Height: 178cm Games MFC 2024: 23 Career Total: 219 Goals MFC 2024: 10 Career Total: 66 Brownlow Medal Votes: 8

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 3

    TRAINING: Wednesday 13th November 2024

    A couple of Demonland Trackwatchers braved the rain and headed down to Gosch's paddock to bring you their observations from the second day of Preseason training for the 1st to 4th Year players. DITCHA'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS I attended some of the training today. Richo spoke to me and said not to believe what is in the media, as we will good this year. Jefferson and Kentfield looked big and strong.  Petty was doing all the training. Adams looked like he was in rehab.  KE

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!
×
×
  • Create New...