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Luke Parker 5 mil over 5 years and front load it.

Jetta Frost Dunn Cross Tmac Salem H Jones Angus Watts Pedo Vince Garlett Hogan Kent Gawn Viney Tyson VB ANB Stretch JKH Spenser developing along with an injured Petracca and Trengove. Seeing these young/first year players come in and be effective has been great. A combination of natural talent and development under established coaches. Just throwing this out there....again....(all estimates) 700k Dawes 400k Grimes 350k Garland 300k Howe 200k Toump = 1.95 million of our cap on 5 players. I think we could afford to loose all 5 of those players and move forward not backwards. It would do three things. Firstly the so called mentally scarred(I don't see much upside in them, Howe is probably already gone). Secondly frees up massive space in our salary cap. Thirdly allows us to target real talent and put forward real offers to the likes of Hogan. It would mark the last of the dead wood contracts.

Any chance the "go home" factor will kick in for him?

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Exactly, play to our strengths not their weaknesses.

Wasnt Clarko quoted as doing this a couple of weeks back and in his own words "it had little to no effect". Again, being brutal and coming to play should be a weekly thing, not something that hinges on articles written or milestone games.

Dawes is contracted for next year, wouldn't care what we got for him if someone took over his contract.

You forgot to mention "speaks well" and "polished media performer".

The odds flipped after yesterday's game. We moved from $2.60 - $1.60 overnight. The bombers went the other way.

I agree but I'm sure we will find a way to grind it out.

Sick of players supposedly being injured. If you take the field you're good to go, don't then use it as a reason for a poor performance. Today's game wasn't a final.

Those odds were the complete opposite yesterday.

Yesterday Dees $2.60 v bombers $1.60 Today Dees $1.60 v bombers $2.60

Agree RJay, only surpassed by his brother.

Can you please elaborate for the uneducated how he is impacting games? As I've said before the whole leadership/clubman line is wearing thin. Is it the fact he's a great public speaker like Grimes? Is it his forward pressure laying a massive 2 tackles against the Cats? Is it his decoy running? Let's not forget what he's costing us. As has already been mentioned, we can become better rather than remain content with mediocre performances from someone on top dollar.

Stream it....

All the talk of Hogan will leave unless we show signs of improvement. The win against Geelong took the pressure of Hogan. He no longer needs to think that unless he kicks a bag we're no chance. And for its worth Geelong has one of the better defences. I'm expecting a win, who of note have the Eagles beaten?

Luke Parker can take over Dawes contract.

Great point, as we've always hovered around this mark it would be safe to assume 30k of them are long term members. How many did we have before the start of the season as compared to now? How many of the Tigers 70k were signed up before round 1? They have the biggest bandwagon in the history of sport. How many are pet memberships and how many are 3 or 5 game memberships? No doubt every membership helps but our long term goal must be to get long term members not bandwagon jumpers.

The last big name player/name player to put off talks then sign from memory was Travis Cloke 4 years ago. By put off I mean drag it out all bloody year.

Next contract? Will he get one?

Just keep picking up/developing mids. Stevie J, Chappy, Bartell, Enright, Corey, Kelly we're all drafted as mids who also played either on a fwd or back flank.

Quality creative back men....Salem being one?? Is it something we should be trading for? Who were you thinking? Would we be better off just developing a mid into our other back flanker? Look at the likes of Hodge/Mitchell/Burgoyne, it's all about versatility, those three can play mid or back flank depending on the game/match ups.Jetta Frost Dunn Salem Tmac "quality creative back"

Cant remember....was that trade done before Eade arrived?? Either way it's not working.

The term depth player is being thrown around a fair bit. Many could argue a case that Dawes could be depth for Pedo, Garland depth for Frost on top of Grimes who is not best 22. Allowing that their respective contracts aren't front loaded we could be looking at 1.5 million worth of depth. I could think of a number of players I would like to target for a 4-5 year contract worth 800k a year starting with Luke Parker.