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I thought he was staging too but the replay showed he copped high contact from the legs of a StKilda player running past. Wasn't much in it but the umpiring in recent weeks is all over the shop.

I no longer know what the rules are.

How did we loose to Essendon?

Has Fletcher retired?

Well if Grimes is dropped his are too. Is he part of midfield rotations. If the answers no then he doesn't play this week. And yes that would make me happy.

My bad but you get the idea. 22 players in two years....People talk about 6-7 this year. Another 11 need to go. That includes 2-3 contracted for next year.

Mandatory boxing over the pre-season. Weekly sparing. We need to harden up.

And yet we still cling on with garbage like "His kicking is starting to improve" what, after six-seven years on the list. My personal favourite and you know who you are "He's a great public speaker" so f'n what, who cares.

Roos recruited H and Terlich but he didn't recruit most of the other crap. We have players on the list that can't - kick the footy - stand up under pressure - think for themselves - be mentally ready to play each week We have turned over 22 players in two years and are still two draft/trade periods away from having real depth. Our two best players most weeks are Cross and Vince, it's a bloody disgrace.

Cybil : where are you going Basil?Basil : I'm going to see Mr Oriley(marching out the door with the garden gnome tucked under his arm)

I read on here that some are sick of picking up players that aren't getting a regular game ie Michie/Newton/Riley. As you said " if we can get them cheap", I would much rather try and fail with those types in the hope we find someone than persist with some of the crap people keep naming in the 22 for the week.

SS - skill shortage?

I'm honestly surprised no one being a player or father of a player hasn't knocked him out yet.

You don't honestly believe that.

The whole night should be forfeited until we are no longer a mess.

Let Newton play the last 3 games.

The year is shot, I'm for giving anyone whose shown a glimpse of promise a run.

We need to be careful with the leadership. I say that because if you can't play the game its difficult to lead by example. Take Jack Grimes, under 18 vic metro captain, he doesn't mind a bit of the physical stuff but his disposal and footy smarts are near non existent.

More depth? We don't have any to start with. We don't even have 22 players up to AFL standard. The honest but scary truth.

As I mentioned in another thread. Before we sign up any more players they must fit 3 criteria or no contract. 1 - Natutal competitor, loves the physical contest 2 - elite user of the footy, mark the footy, hit targets on a consistent basis. 3 - footy smarts If we had to apply that to our current list we would easily loose a 3rd in one go. Some big names would go. We are a mess. Hopefully the coaches can let go because some of the supporters can't.

Let's cut the crap. Who can't dispose of the footy by foot. Every player must possess 3 things. 1- must be a natural competitor and love the contest 2- must be able to dispose of the footy 3- must have footy smarts Let's be honest, how many does that now rule out? A Tom McDonald might be the only exception with regards to no.2 because his main role is a stopper. If we're being honest at least 6-7 who played yesterday must go. How many would miss if applied to the Hawks? One, Chip Frawley but he comes under the Tmac exception.

Agree with everything but the call on Toumpas.

Sub or not, he's one of many that isn't AFL standard.

Doesnt matter who lined up next week, Carlton don't want the win.

We've got players who can't hit a target 15 metres away by foot, but we'd be number one for best public speakers. What price do we put on that?