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My god JARKA you must be as old as I am

Can't believe Bate is not at CHF to take about 6 strong pack marks and bust open the packs for the smaller players

I'll say it one more time. Bate lots of potentiall, NOT big enough for centre half forward!

Fact is youre not much good, couldn't finish a side with no bench for the second half. Will finish eighth at best and go out in the first week

Don't really know if it would be good or bad but nearly every other aussie rules comp in victoria would have it !

Brock great attitude and big heart, unfortunately imo what will hold him back is that he is a one paced player.

What is it with these comments about how Sheedy felt about us or us about him ? Its totally irrelevant to the current situation.

The most disturbing aspect of posts to this site is that Bate is a possibility to be successfull at chf. Will never have the body size to more than pinch hit in this position

On field leader last year in a team bereft of leaders, was very good. This year has let the club down badly

Good post Jaded, completely sums up what our problems are as a football club

Does anyone consider that Nathan Carroll has been less effective this year when compared to last year due to the way the team has been playing. Not much pressure on the opposition a lot of the time

Very mischevious Clint

The worrying thing is this side is just going through the motions playing out the year. They have fallen far far off the pace. Despite some good cameos from younger players its a long way back to where we were. P.S. Brock is not the messiah we all hoped he would be

Was leaning towards Brock like most others but don't know if he is showing enough recently, may still be a bit young

The problem is that mentally our players are as soft as melting butter, a problem that has been prevalent for many years now. Too many of them have become too comfortable with the coach and should refrain from commenting on his remaining tenure. 2 goals to 12 against at half time against the bottom side, absolutely the biggest disgrace for years

Only have ourselves to blame with these sort of results occurring far too often over past years. Sometimes it appears the names Melbourne & Geelong are interchangeable losing games expected to win

Even when we're flying when do we ever win by 8 - 10 goals?

Absolutely agree might not be the most popular player here but had to be in the best 6

Those that said PJ wouldn't make it as a ruckman may have been a bit premature given his age and games played

Good win against top opposition. Confidence and fewer injuries go a long way

we've had injuries, players are now coming back. kangaroos are a very average team. questions now need to be asked. our ability to disappoint is infinite.

This culture of flaky mediocraty has existed in MFC for years. For those who can remember 1990 Beat Essendon twice during the year Beat the gun side of the late eighties Hawthorn twice in 2 weeks ( last home & away & 1st final) when no one gave us a chance. Had to play the Eagles in the next final who we had beaten comfortably in Perth, just a few weeks before. Had the home state advantage VFL park. Went in solid favourites you guessed it went down like a sack of spuds. We were as good as anyone that year & should have at least played off instead of Essendon. Seethed for weeks waiting for a Melbourne official/coach/president to condemn what a wasted opportunity this had been. Not a murmur from the MFC. We accept too easily this mediocrity. Nothing has changed

Rhino & CB build a bridge

Pickett was one of the main reasons we went as far as we did last year. It was no coincidence when he did his hamstring was when we started to struggle. Has let us down this year though by presenting so unfit

What we need more than anything is players who when things start to go against us get in and change the course of the game. Netz tries but is stuck at one end of the ground. Remember BYRON'S game against kangaroos last year. We were going downhill fast and all of a sudden he was everywhere. we have plenty of players with 100 games plus experience now GREEN BRUCE JOHNSTONE ETC. they need to get stuck in and do it or this year will just be the same as the last few.