spirit of norm smith

I agree 100%. Especially Watts as sub. It sends a message.

agree with a prior post 6-N Jones 5-Viney daylight ... 4-Cross 3-Dawes 2-Frawley 1-Dunn

Clark, Hogan, Michie, Tapscott ... and Barry (!!!)

Big Jake is a good filler until we get a decent ruckman in. He is certainly not top 12 in the league for rucks. Skills and decision making are very very poor. Peter Wright is likely as our 1st draft choice.

In ... Jetta and Clisby Out ... Evans and Terlich sub. Dean Kent

Thumping kick. Goes in hard. Needs to learn about his role. Get it and thump it. His decision making can be simplified. Tapscott has huge upside. Dont give up on the kid. (I did hear swap for Jarryd Lyons was mooted at end of 2013).

6- N Jones 5- Frawley 4- McDonald 3- Viney 2- Cross 1- Bail

Merry Xmas ... Go the mighty Demons

is Max Gawn injured?

Likely draft outcome 1st round #1 Patrick McCartin, Geelong Falcons 195cm Johnathan Brown like key forward 2nd round priority pick #21 trade away for a midfielder: #22 Billy Stretch * father/son -179cm pacy wingman "Frawley compensating" #23 Sean Mclaren, Sandringham Dragons- 198cms ruck/forward 3rd round #42 trade to Cats for Jordan Schroeder - 184cms half forward/mid. Goalkicker and tough. Free agent - Matt Rosa - 190 cms classy wingman Upgraded rookie Mitch Clisby thats 7 in

Billy Stretch is a bright spot in a dark current landscape. Sign Billy and use our 2nd round choice approx 20. He is a good wingman and has pace which we lack.

Tapscott and Garland ... More mystery than Poirot!!!

Goodvibes. Myself and 33,000 others share your love for the club. I share your pain, but we shall never surrender. Lets stay angry and keep our desire to win.

outs ... Byrnes, Bail, Terlich, Fitzpatrick ins ... Blease, Trengove, Clisby, Gawn

This thread get to 500 pages by November. 1- McCartin 2-Wright 3-Brayshaw 4- Petrecca 5- Lever Nth will be desparate to get Brayshaw. Ryan Bastinac and North pick 12 (9th place) for our pick 2. Assume MFC gets priority pick and pick 1.

With Mitch Clarks retirement, it does bring Patrick McCartin into my draft targets. Comparison to Johnathan Brown is a big drawcard. Imagine Hogan and McCartin in the same forward line. Giants have Patton and Cameron and we should aim for 2 key forwards.

Throw 3 years and $600,000 a year at Chip

Yessss... James Mcdonald was skipper and executed far too early. Brad Green was a reluctant leader. Grimes and Trengove was Optimistic at best.

Contested possessions = Christian Petracca

Its Lachie Plowman for me. Has the build and size of Mundy and 11 years younger.

from today AFL standard: Jones, Tyson, Cross, Howe, Frawley, Grimes, Vince, Watts Tryers who are in 22nd-30 player depth status: Terlich, M Jones, McDonald, Dunn, Pedersen Delist: Spencer, bail, byrnes, evans, Fitzpatrick Developing: Viney, JKH, Gerogiou, kent You cannot have too many Tryers and Delistees and Developing in your best 22

Morton and Gysberts were talented kids who did not win contested footy. They played as tall mids in uncontested style... modern day athletes who were not ready for the grit of the AFL. At least I put it out there. You get it right most of the time so you question why cannot the professionals. We have held players back and yes like 17 other clubs have also played 18 year olds in their first year. Give me strength. It does not seem to have hurt the Giants or Suns youngsters development. Brayshaw, Lever, McCartin are all footballers (yes like Hogan who I supported our mini-draft choice). Do you have 3 others from this years crop that you support. If you don't follow the recruiting, then keep backing the clubs UNDER PERFORMANCE and keep eating the popcorn from the club in the cheap seats.

Agree our drafting was rubbish. I wanted Wines over Toumpas, Palmer over Morton, Atley over Cook, Talia over Gysberts, Freeman/Sheed/Dunstan over Salem. Watts was the right pick. So was Scully, Trengove, Blease, Grimes. 2014: Brayshaw, Lever, McCartin are the right kids. I want tough footballers. Not development types.

I love it. Rowen Welsh for our successor. Do the basics right. When we have it: use your skills, run hard, create, kick to position, block When they have it: man up, pressure, chase, tackle When its in dispute: contest, 2nd efforts, physical effort, stay on your feet.

We are stuffed. Only 4-5 players showed AFL standards. Byrnes, Bail, Evans MUST be DROPPED and ultimately delisted.