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The only certainty is that the Dogs are pretenders...as always. What a crepe Club they are

Too much time in the air or running very fast after someone all parties know he won't catch. He doesn't seem to choose the options with the neccesary ruthless cost benefit analysis. When he's choicelessly in the mix of the play he's electric though. Good kick but ....and his block to allow Trac to kick "that" goal in the G/F was worth whatever he got paid to extend his contact

A back six of May Petty Lever Salem Hibbert and McVee might be a surprise given the coaches capacity to make bad game calls, but gee it would be useful

Other than the Dogs( who I never count) which top sides have the Dee's beaten?

As fearlessly critical as I may be I didn't have the nerve to say that( I did think it though) .

To the extent that I may be known around here ( very small) I am a grinch with nfi,so I felt safe enough to go one more time ( smile)

I was at a Dee's game against the Swans...Bails vs Roos where everyone in red and Blue were better than excellent

Given the Dee's 4 quarter games since they were premiers( basically none ) surely the question should be which team wins close ones.

Yeah me too...its out grandfinal after all

Get Petty back to where he's best .The backline is exposed without him They are still the highest scoring forward line but its not because of Petty. They can't play BBB and JVR in the same forward line unless they learn to kick it to Brown on a lead. TMac taking a back out of the play is old news, hes finished...BBB,JVR with Gawn/Grundy and Fritta floating around is a marking quadrella Defensive pressure and fall of the ball action from the rest would help as would Kossi choosing when to chase a tackle ( thats when he might catch them,not just look quick) Maybe Oliver isn't the reason Trac won't win a Brownlow; both champs but perhaps not as effective as the legend on here suggests Goodwin might stop saying " we back our system" or we're looking at getting the balance right" as well. Two seasons of nonsense pressers is enough ...time to target winning from 6th

Culture ? Surely not.... they have " Goody" as a coach

Is that the new excuse?..I thought it was the umpires,the AFL and Geelongs home ground advantage

It takes a special mediocrity to do that.

You hate dare,vision and intelligence then? MFC is responsible for what they have created and the supporters and management they have attracted...and you hate others who have done nothing but succeed where MFC have failed Geez. Now Richmond.. who moved into our ground and the State Govt and VFL who allowed it...they are worthy of disdain .

If they could play four quarters in a game occasionally......

Who won the game?

You arnt suggesting they might beat the Pies are you? I am more concerned about Carlton...they have a chance there because like Goodwin their coach was a good player on game day but can't coach on game day. Pies and Cats are just losses to chalk up

Giro ....anyone on board? It's one of my favourites but time constraints and now off to the " dig tree" at Coopers Creek put me out of vision range. Updates welcomed

I didn't realise that you know me

Exactly my point North are spuds. Tiges was a good game to watch even if they had 9 out through injury and have only won 2 games. Where are Swans on the ladder? Essendon up and coming ..pants them ,Lions likewise How do you think they will go against Cats Pies ,Port ,Saints and Adelaide on current form? Theres nothing wrong with the list but they don't play like their reputation .

No an adult supporter would be mature enough to know that we support them. You're pretty pathetic if you you think you represent the team . Do you wear a jumper with your favourite players number on the back as well? I stopped doing that when Bluey Adams retired.

Can't see them beating the top sides anyway given the way they are currently playing against spuds

He's as good as gone imo. This thread has four years to run

It appears to be a fanciful stat for the sake of having a stat to valorise ruckmen when actually it's down to the efficiency of mids getting the ball forward to a team mate on the outside