Cranky Franky

The Muir story has no comparisons with what happened to Sean Charles. After the first few years Sean started getting a lot of injuries. He also stated he was struggling for motivation & wanted to spend more time with his family & was eventually delisted. He made comebacks with Carlton & St Kilda but more injuries & lack of motivation meant both were very short lived.

Interesting article. He was a very good footballer but geez he had a hair trigger temper & white line fever. I found the article a bit one sided as everything that happens is always someone else's fault. He clearly had a tough life but it would have been nice if he had admitted to some mistakes he made but clearly he didn't get the help & support he needed at the time. Anyhow hope he gets the $ for his operation & gets more recognition for his talents & career.

I've never seen any evidence of physicality in Wagner's game. To me he is a " beige" player & a long way down the pecking order.

Crows are desperate so I reckon they will make Jack Viney a big, big offer at the end of the year.

There is always some mystical player at another Club that Demonlanders get obsessed with who will solve all our problems. ATM that player is Zac Williams. A pass from me. He is injury prone. Get games into Rivers instead.

He's half right. Goody was bloody stubborn early this year insisting on playing a midget fwd line despite constant criticism from the media & Demonlanders.

Dunno why some people have difficulty in admitting to mistakes in our list management strategy. Trading Howe & Martin & retiring James McDonald are prime examples. Losing Dunn & keeping Oscar was a shocker of a decision.

I reckon this is an ideal opportunity for Tom. He won't win many taps but can win touches around the ground. He has great stamina & can run off Goldie. I thought he was improving when he got the poke in the eye and lets face it he was no worse than lots of others against Port. Early on this year he was scratchy but he was having to play as the lone key fwd without Jackson or Weid so I am cutting him some slack but he really needs to perform today.

Yes Oscar was very poor tonight.

Of course he has a poor footy IQ. He came to the game late, had lots of injuries & has only played abt 12 games. It was unfair to put him in a defence along with Rivers & Lockhart in a side not playing well. The fact that there is no regular VFL also makes it hard for him to develop. We are better off trying him up forward where he would be hard to match up. He has decent kicking skills, marks & runs ok. He has more upside than Tomlinson.

On what criteria did you include Henry Coles ? Pretty sure he was Greek and had anglicised his name. And for the record I can't remember any mentions that Lovel was Indigenous early in his career. All the early talk was of his link to the Tasmanian woodchopping Lovells

There are 2 points here that posters regularly get wrong & have now gone into folklore 1. Scott Thompson stated that he would stay at Melbourne if a reasonable deal could not get done with Adelaide. We could have kept him. Daniher however figured that if the player wanted to leave he would not stand in his way. 2. Geelong were desperate to get Ottens & Melbourne had their pick of half a dozen players & we chose Moloney.

A season when Demonlanders stop living in the past & stop posting clips of Robbie Flower, Farmer, Schwatz & Jackovich because reality is so depressing

And the worst decision Bailey ever made (which still haunts us) was to overlook Dylan Grimes in the pre season draft & pick Joel McDonald instead.

Several major omissions as far as I am concerned. Henry Coles was an excellent rover & goal kicking fwd pocket for us. Also in terms of talent surely Alan Davis & Phil Carman get in - both were brilliant players. Cross, Crosswell & Clarkson were way past their best when they came to us & were only there to teach some of the younger players.

Well knock me over with a feather. Who would have guessed. Same story that we've had from every assistant since about 1968.

Its actually a very accurate comment. I watched Jeffy play at Casey in 2018 & for whatever reason he was poor & not trying very hard. Everybody is subject to different personal circumstances & pressures but when you pull on a jumper & get paid a bucketload of money you have to expect criticism. I can't see why he gets judged by different rules than say Stretch or Kennedy Harris.

Smith, Vandenberg, Hannan, Kolodashnij & Bennell will be injured all year & won't play 6 games between them

The most "beige" player on the list, lacks any physicality to his game. Astounded that they kept him & let Frost walk, very lucky to still be around.

The first intelligent comment on this issue. Demonlanders seem to have lost their ability to think critically & everything the management does gets greeted with loud applause. 5 years is a ridiculous deal for a good solid player. Only Gawn & maybe Oliver would be worthy of such a deal. Over long contracts is how Clubs get themselves into trouble - form & injury can mean a drop off very quickly.

I reckon a lot of Demonlanders have collectively gone mad & lost their objectivity and logical reasoning in their desperate quest for success. What happened to the NO Dickhe@ds policy. Have people forgotten the troubles & dramas this bloke has caused at 2 Clubs !! with regard to drugs and poor discipline. And this is before you even begin to look at his injury problems

Absolute disaster. Has been trouble & a disappointment at 2 Clubs. You start recruiting di#%heads and you reap the result.

The problem with ANB is that his skills are very shaky under any sort of pressure. He also needs more aggression and physical pressure in his makeup. Plus he just has to kick those 50/50 goal opportunities that present to him.

What a load of absolute nonsense - straight out of the Melbourne PR Dpt. Tomlinson might be able to run 3 marathons in a row but he is still an average plodder.

I was flabbergasted to read that our BT rates Frost behind Josh Wagner & Oscar McD because no other sane person who watches football would agree with them. Reminds me that we gave away a Kings ransom to get Lever when we effectively gave away Jeremy Howe who has become one of the top intercept defenders in the competition. And to those who always pipe up that Howe was going to leave anyway - I have never seen evidence of that & recall that we made no effort to keep him & were very happy to trade him away.