deelusions from afar

Other than salary, what would the club that gets Treloar have to give up?

26 & 33 & Tmac for Bown and Polec? I assume the Polec and Tmac salaries kinda cancel each other out. I think Polec would be great for our needs but for whatever reason we don't seem interested.

Surely not - JM had previously said it wouldn't be a first rounder. Brown wants to come to us and there are no other clubs competing for his services.

Hope you're right... If I was a roos supporter I'd be wanting more

I feel this means we're unlikely to go after the Doggies first pick as surely Hannan would be part of that deal if it was happening?

Agree with what you have but this shows how much is falling to Kozzie - we definitely need some other pressure forwards in there. Also shows that Melksham's days might be numbered if he can't rediscover the form of 2018.

Looks very good in highlights. I wonder how Hunt's highlights would look in comparison when all put together? The player I was keen on that is slipping away is Witherton. Although less essentially than a small pressure forward, having Witherton in defence or the wing would definitely improve our best 22. Looks like the eagles are ready to land him. https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trades-afl-2020-afl-trade-period-brisbane-alex-witherden-trade-talk-news-west-coast-eagles/news-story/9a54207b52081356166feeaa0cffcb31

But surely his manager would be telling him not to drop the salary for that very reason? Tom is a bright guy as far as footballers go so it's not like he won't have anything to do after footy - but the way he's played the last two years (largely due to injury) then he's not AFL standard so should be making the most of it as much as he can financially. I see other people say it's bad management to trade him after we've offered him the contract and that he's versatile and can play anywhere. If he is in 2017/2018 form and fitness he is worth every cent of the contract - the fact that we are looking to trade him suggests to me that they don't believe he can get back to those levels of fitness.

Not only directed at you but I don't understand why so many people don't rate Mahoney. Every year he does a heap with the hand he's dealt.

Pretty sure Kobe's draft year is 2021 - I think he's been playing colts this year in WAFL?

I think Weid and Brown can both play deep. One leads at the ball carrier and the other stays deep for the long option - makes it much harder for defenders to drop off to cover the main target. For me Tmac was too much of a liability in defence. People forget that prior to him going forward in 2017, many on here wanted him traded as they'd had enough. TMac could beat his man one on one and intercept but regularly tried to pull off the low percentage kick into the centre out of defence (that you usually only trust the likes of Salem to execute) and he also had a habbit of playing on after a mark / free kick and getting caught or pressured and turning it over. When he went forward this disappeared as he could just kick straight at the goals. Maybe he's matured mentally and can "play a role" down back. But i think he's lost speed and agility and would be a liability back there. A big preseason, who knows? But for mine I'd have Hore / Tomlinson and potentially even Petty / Smith ahead of him to support May and Lever down back.

thought the bombers were interested - esp after losing Daniher. They have room to pay his salary too!

clearly we're keen but don't want to telegraph it and pay overs.

Was a sneaky question by Barrett (who I'm pretty sure is a North supporter). There has been talk that our pick 23 (or 25 or whatever it is) would not be enough. By asking the question it makes it look like if it is not a first round it should be an early second or something of decent value (i.e. a player worth a first / second round pick)

my take as well.

Even if we land a winger we're a pressure forward short (IMO). Maybe Spargo / Hunt / Bedford can get it done but the teams that do it best have lots of options - eg Richmond were able to trade Dan Butler out last year and are looking to trade Higgins this year and they still have numerous options up there. Otherwise we're banking on Yze being able to fix all our centre square and connection between midfield and forward line issues. If it were possible, then it would certainly be easier to play a pressure forward role in our team. I hear Yze's good, but not sure if anyone is that good.

Maybe the wrong thread for it but I don't think I see what everyone else sees in Baker. His GWS game was good... but he barely played this year. He's been on the list for a few years and wasn't suffering major injuries throughout the season. It's not as if the club wouldn't have trained him up to play on the wing this year. I hope he is the answer... but think its crazy to be putting all our eggs in his basket and that of Hunt etc. Surely bringing someone in to play this role would not hurt

People who watch VFL / training will be better placed to comment, but I thought Bradtke was actually showing a bit natural instincts as a forward that in the ruck? I'm not against us going after a ruck as insurance - yes we could play tomlinson / weid / jacko in the ruck, but we don't want to be forced to do that if they're all playing well in other positions.

Don't disagree but would love to bring someone else in as a winger and for Baker / Hunt or whoever to have to win it off them over the preseason. Given Hunt and Baker have been on our list the last few years suggests they're not the answer - but would LOVE to be proven wrong. I think Mahoney's comments are strange but it's easy for quotes to be taken out of context in print. Clearly they don't have anything locked in but I'm sure they are seeking to bring players in if they improve our best 22. Mahoney's hardly going to say "we're after wingers / outside midfielders" publicly as it puts him in a worse negotiating position with another club - e.g. they will know that Mahoney has promised something to the members so will do whatever it takes to keep the promise.

I tend to agree - I suspect it's more about Mahoney trying to manage expectations. Brown is locked in, and they will go hard at other options but given the lack of draft picks (and the fact that we don't know what we will get for what we trade out) he doesn't want to say we'll be able to get anyone else in. Surely SURELY they would be looking for one or two of the following: - another winger (left footer preferably) - a pacy midfielder with decent skills - pacy small pressure forward - ruck insurance - eg if Max goes down and we don't want Jackson / Bradtke to carry all of the load

Ideally we are able to entice another crumbing / pressure forward to come across too. The we would have a dangerous forward line! Is it possible to do this, grab an outside winger and keep a top 30 pick? For essentially Pruess / Hannan / ANB / TMac

Maybe if TMac went to them and we didn't have to pay his salary. Think it's horrendous the way he has been treated by Collingwood... would love him at the dees but would be a little concerned about those hamstrings esp at such a high price.

It's all about trying to get the bombers the best deal - if anything Brown looks to be a more reliable prospect than Daniher

I think he's best 22. Did some fantastic things in defence this year. Not sure on what the question marks is on him - maybe it's fitness? Surprising to me that he was overlooked at the end of the year as we don't have many players that can lock a small forward down. I also would love to see him up forward crumbing with Kozzie if we don't go after another small forward in the draft / trade period.

Disagree with many in this thread. Defenders are an easy target as their mistakes cost goals. He missed all of last year, has been asked to play a variety of roles in the last few years, and didn't have the VFL to build his form and confidence. I still think he's got a lot of upside if he gets a decent run at it. Having said that that, I think the third defender role (after may and lever) is currently taken by tomlinson with hore and maybe petty ahead of him. Will be be tried forward again in 2021?