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Richmond are at where we are at both sides are having a crack, but Muppet thanks for that did your mum and dad sign a permission slip fo you to go overseas

Hope its a one way ticket I can't stand listening to this shite anymore from supporters like you who think we are a couple of years ahead of where we are

Yep Greeny is the sub Viney is just talking on ABC now and his words were that Brad's preparation for the game did not warrant him starting, as he missed last week with back spasm's. I like the way Viney speaks and my perception is there are no walk ups in this side you all play a role to achieve the desired result. I am quite sure a few of our older players have been or will be told a few home truths in recent times. Viney is talking about taking pressure of the backs and kicking more than trying to handball from defence. Also calling for more wins in the clearances. Viney talks it the way he played and from the way he is talking he may still put his hand up for the role, he is not 100% against it. Viney is talking all about the benefit for the club whatever we do people like Todd need to be kept at the club.

Agree with most of this!

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Digby for the sake of being around when we eventually win the big event, Ease up on the drugs bud. F#%K me two things I hate in the world West Coast Eagles and Manchester United. You have to be taking the [censored]!

Fellow Demonlanders this is three weeks in a row now you have fallen for nonsense articles written by Kim Hagdorn. A hack journo from WA who has absolutley no credibility. Article a fortnight ago was about the Dees targetting Worsfold as coach Last week was about 7 (yes 7!) players out of contract wanting to move on and not re-sign. FFS can we close the Scully threads until an announcemnet is made either way, nothing we say or do will change whatever decision is to be made.

Viney was my favourite player, what you seen was what you got. I like the way he is being honest about where the team is at, not playing politics and pissing in the board/supporters pockets by just saying the right cliched things

Sensible post

Best event to get Malthouse is for Pies to not win Premiership and to add fuel to the fire in Micks belly having got so close like in 2002. Buckley refuses to stay in background for another 12 months leaving Mick with the option of taking up the reigns elsewhere.

Ridiculous post anything can happen 2008 was supposed to see the Hawks get blown away on Grand Final day. I am not saying I want Rocket, Malthouse is my number 1 choice, ahead of Clarko but Rocket would be my 3rd choice. None of these coaches would stand for our lack of accountability. If Rocket is going to get us to GF's I will be happy and let fate take its course

We know they often eat their own, but true supporters are embodied in the story of now deceased Tigers fan David MANDIE. Would have seen a lot of pain in those times, but also some premierships. Take the ups with the downs. By all accounts had a great relationship with the players,so expect them to come out fired up on Sunday. Test of character for our boys to weather the storm and step up in the 2nd quarter unlike the last month!

Point taken but line in the sand time for the club. We are no longer a soft target by any means and whatverver it takes to get the best for MFC we will do. Sorry if your offended Eddie but we are not here to do what pleases you and some times we may offend but like you with your Pies the best interests of the Melbourne Football Club are paramount

F%#K Eddie Bring it on this is all part of taking a stand. Replace the Pies with Bombers, Carlton, Richmond, Hawks crowd might not be as big but they all have big follwings and grow it as a stand alone game. It's ours do not give it up under any circumstances.

No matter what spin Eddie & Gary Pert like to put on it, i Mick wants to coach next year he will coach. IMO He has been told by both of them Mick you have a contract so shut up we don't want anything to affect our tilt at Back to Back. Things will change once there seaon ends. The club (MFC) will know through the process whether Mick is going to be coaching or not next year so I do not think it affects the process really. I also believe barring a massive turnaround Bickley will get the Crows job. If you were an applicant which list would you prefer Dees or Dogs

I wouldn't say he did not seem keen the panel was discussing whether they felt Eade should be renewed as Bulldogs coach, Garry asked Grant Thomas your quite strong on coaches being sacked do you think Eade is right for the dogs, Thomas was going through how he felt Eade was the right man for the job and said he had a lot to offer, at this stage he said well Garry would you want him as coach of Melbourne if he was available. Caro piped in with well Garry and Hutchy had that smug look on his face and Garry's exact words in his immediate response were "I am not commenting on Melbourne I am asking about Eade and the coaching role at the Bulldogs" Can't see where the he didn't seem keen on Eade comes from that, but everyone has a different perception

Good post follow Jimmys lead and keep fighting

Said this as part of my reply on the positives thread that he is playing like someone who has the weight of the world on his shoulders, either the decision talk is getting to him or he just wants to tell someone at the club he is gone. Why do you think Eddie deflected the attention away from his boys so early in the season no matter what we say it has affected the club this year

Simple Answer to title of this thread is Because I love the Dees and will until the day I die. That is why times like this hurt so much if we didn't love the club we would just move on and jump back on when good times and finals appearances returned. I didn't start supporting this club because they were a powerhouse (Irish Immigrant kid who turned the Winners on in 1980 and saw Melbourne v Fitzroy, so picked the team in blue) I copped years of torment at school from the kids who followed Carlton, Essendon and Hawthorn. In 1987 there was the fairytale and hope and there have been ups and downs for many years since, but there has and always will be hope. Unfortunatley I spent the early to mid 90's in Ireland so missed a big chunk of our good years barring RTE/BBC highlight packages I am nearly 40 years old now so have not been alive for a premiership. The thought of actually watching the final 5 minutes of the last game of the season knowing your team is going to win the Premiership is something I could only compare to watching my lotto numbers being drawn (either would be unbelievable). But I live in hope I have faith one day it will come and it will be wonderful thing to witness and yes worth all the pain we have endured. As we say in Ireland Tiocfadh Ar Lor "Our Day Will Come" Red, Blue & Proud

Positives v Eagles Howe: Great Hands and knows where to run Petterd: showed something up front, led well in 2nd half Watts:Not a great day for him but never gave up and work rate was always there, that shows you more about him than anything else HE REALLY WANTS IT NOW Blease:Showed some pace and why he was highly regarded before the leg break Frawley: Showed arrogance and rebounded well Garland:Wasn't beaten and was there at every contest which came his way Jamar & Martin: Beat the best ruck duo in the AFL Trengove:This kid is all class and after onlt two years absolutley bleeds red & blue Jones:Gives his all Bartram:Kerr was good early but Bartram nullified him for most of the game and most of all we didn't give up, for the last 2 weeks we have lay down but today after the terrible 2nd quarter we came back out and had a crack, manned up and pretty much matched them for 2nd half. Hopefully we learnt the importance of getting the ball into the forward line early Season Positives: The old guard is being replaced by up and coming boys who want (for the most) to be part of something We realise things just wont happen because you have talent, which we thought at the end of 2011. We realise we need to put in some hard yards to get where the good sides are Re-signing of some quality kids The Tom Scully saga whatever the outcome is nearly over BTW IMHO he is playing like a young man with the weight of the world on his shoulders, I don't believe he has made a decision yet and all the talk is getting to him now, either that or he just wants to tell someone yes I am going Martin, Watts, Trangove & Howe

It's called self preservation, they all know there is going to be a clean out of the list and they are doing whats best for themselves and not the team. Pretty common with teams down the bottom end of the ladder at this time of year, not what you expect from a side who crazy as it is can still scramble into 8th (which i do not think by any means they will)

+1 I dont think he is on big money, and unless we get a good trade no harm keeping him. His confidence is absolutley shot the mark he took on 50 summed it up, he was looking to give off from the moment he took the ball and couldn't handball it to Dunn quick enough. A player with confidence would have went back and slotted it. West Coast were the clanger and turnover kings last season, now Scott Selwood, Brad Ebert and Embley are playing good footy and hitting targets confidence is a big thing for players. Make no mistake they are no better than some players we have on our list

All good in theory, Eagles don't play games at trade table and Gaff is contracted till end of 2012, unless you are prepared to give up Trengove then he will be still with WCE next season. Thats not to say we don't start approaching his agent early next season and put the come home factor into his head early. If he hasn't signed at seasons end hit WCE up at 2012 trade table

As someone who lives in Perth I can tell you all Kim Hagdorn is a crab, he is way off the mark with his info at Wet Coke & Freo. I would not take any notice of an article written by him. He also wrote a column last week that we were looking at approaching Worsfold for the coaching role.

We as a club have been spoken of for a long time now as a soft touch, we don't like the tag but I think most of us agree it fits currently. Yes when really under the pump and subject to public criticism & scrutiny, against Adelaide & Essendon this season we lifted. But it took that public shame for our older guys to play hard and lift into it. What I am saying is they are not naturally hard and it is not something they bring to the game week in week out. We talk of changing the culture and why things haven't changed yet, Mark my words the hard players we have at the club and the ones who lead by example are still young. The culture at this club is changing but it will not happen overnight, Watts,Trengove, Tapscott,Mckenzie, Bail, Jetta (Yes give him time I think there is hope for him, he loves to get stuck in if nothing else), Frawley, Howe, Gawn etc are the ones who will effect and have started the change. Another pre season or two will see great strides taken what player or supporter of this club could not be impressed by the efforts of Trengove, Watts, Tappy, Mckenzie, Frawley and see light at the end of the tunnel. The guard is changing and these boys will take over we will see in time when these boys are 22-25 a team that is harder and more accountable. They lead by example and we will have new players coming in who will follow the culture of these guys and not those left over from our front running era of the 2000's (Not including junior in this). I honestly believe the likes of Jones, Sylvia and Maloney will get a new lease of life and be forced to follow the example from this bunch and will want to be part of something. If these boys have not shown Scully the way forward then sorry Tom but you are not right for us, I would love you to remain with us just so your training and work ethic could flow on to the younger in coming guys but if thats not to be well, we will move forward never the less. If nothing else the signing of these boys is a godsend and much needed to the Dees supporters who believe the media hype that the club is in a crisis and nothing but doom and gloom hovers over the club. All I can say is I am in for life and look forward to the future ahead, I only hope Jimmy gets to see the finishing touches of what he started. GO DEES!