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Hope it's not Greeny's farewell game was hoping for a Sunday Game as I have a mates 40th that night

A lot can happen in 12 months Dustin Martin was a nothing player halfway through 2009, came home late as will someone else next season, happens every year one pops up. Big risk with 17 year olds, what did Vossy say a few years ago Tom Swift was the best 16 year old he had ever seen

Pretty much with you here old dee red & blue till death Nothing will happen though IMO to difficult for the AFL Whatever they tried to prove would be thrown outin court Anyone giving evidence against a club would be shot down as a disgruntled ex-employee Their credibility would be smashed in court and all sorts of skeletons would come out of closets Not worth it and the fat controller would not want the brand damaged Pretty sure AFL would have explained this to Mclean during their interview

Scully, Trengove, Tynan to name a few.

IMO this isnt tanking Freo played Hawks in 2010 down in Launceston rested half therir side and got smashed, their ladder position was not going to change. The following week they played the Hawks at Subi in an elimination final and smashed them. They looked ahead their players needed to refresh so they went in with an undermaned side down in Tassie, they weren't deliberatley going in to lose but if they didn't win it wasn't the end of the world, which is where I think we were at under Bailey and that is why a lot of kids got games without really earning them

Good post but would not give up on Sylvia, think he has bought into what Neeld is trying to turn him into, think Neeld sees him as a challenge he is winning

Lyon took over at the end of 2006 after Thomas was sacked when we beat Saints in the elimination final, Saints struggled under Lyon for a good part of 2007 but finished their last 6 or 7 games really well and just missed the 8. They played in a prelim in 08 and were runners up in 09/10. Having said that they weren't coming from as far back as we were after prelims in 04 & 05 and making finals in Thomas's last year

Best of Luck today Greeny, you have been a great servant to the club and the 4th quarter turnaround against Carlton in 2000, still burns brightly in my memory!

I think may come in tomorrow as a late change

Denham actually said " Why would you go to Melbourne" he knew the offer was 7 million over 7 years but you'd want 20 million to be going to Melbourne KB chimed in then just saying Greg we know you just don't like Melbourne

I think the clun underestimated the benefit he would have had on teh playing group, it may be out there but would have considered Ball & Junior as being a similar pairing to Jude & Kirky setting up the bloods culture

Have to admit wasn't sold early, but front ended last three years on average to decent (not excessive) coin does have plenty of pro's. No picks to give up Opposition coaches headache, best tall defender on Clark or Cloke Draft mids and small forward if available Fills a lot of holes in our list in 1 off season Howe/Jurrah third tall Jamar/Gawn/Martin resting forward think Meth Coast Kennedy/Lynch/Darling/Cox, Pies 2010/11 Cloke/Dawes/Brown/Jolly Also while we need good mids Clark & Cloke would reak havoc and panic in opposition forward lines with quick deep forward kicks and they both know how to work hard and lead with purpose

Yep in hindsight worse than this year as 2010 left us with great hope

RPFC think I made it pretty clear I want Midfielders and Rucks who I said I prefer were all taken laet in draft or rookie elevations Just to clarify MIDS with Pick 3 & 4, rucks late picks or rookie/PSD

With you there if Neeld has decided to delist 10 delist them, jesus I hate Meth Coast but I rate their culture and their FD has been strong for years, I admire the way they develop and get the best out of ordinary players, Woosha is not a great coach but he demands fit players who do the team things and that is what we are asking for now, it will take time but another Eagles non negotiable is to go to the draft and never trade picks, I agree with this and until you are in a flag/top four window you don't tade for Boaks with top picks, so for me 3 & 4 are off the table even for u/17 draft as barring a miracle we will still have a pick inside top 10 next year. If we can get Boak for pick 13 and a player then I will take that or even if we want Caddy chase that I'll take 2 top kids, Viney and a ready made mid in Boak/Caddy ATM I'd sway to Caddy, I believe we can get him cheaper keep some coin for a F/A and get the kids. I agree with you on Magner & Couch keep them for another season or two at most and thank them for their efforts unless they improve out of sight, at least you know they wont die wondering. Currently thinking use 6 picks in draft, 1 to 2 F/A's and upgrade 2 rookies and maybe a PSD pick up, that allows us to delist 9 or 10

Last few top draft picks as rucks who were going to be guns Gardiner (96) Fraser (99) Kruezar (07) Natanui(08) no thanks Mumford, Jolly, Jacobs, Cox and even Jim (God bless him) are always there. Take the mids

Good post, bit to sensible for some of the unrealistic melodramatics on here, who you'll be able to work out soon enough, but welcome aboard

The fact you don't get his interiews says more about you than it does Neeld, whilst he may not be the messiah, he is what the club needs and in fact needed his type in 2007, to lay down the law and stop the tail wagging the dog. Sheedy would have been good but needed a rest You don't have an agenda, are you serious, you've had it going all year. If we were the same this time next year you would have a right to carry on as you have!

I saw the early 80's and they were hard but from 1987 to 2006 barring a couple of odd years here and there we were generally fairly decent. Throughout those years we maintained very strong cores of sides and have lacked that since 2006. We drafted bad during the Danniher era and he never had the quids at his disposal to rebuild another strong list, probably erred to in relying on those who continued to let him down when it got tough. For me the season has not gone as expected but I had us finishing around 10th at best, I think with injuries and a lack of confidence we have underperformed despite a new coach and game plan we should have won more. Unlike Hardnut & Tonatopia I will not be slashing my wrists but found myself turning off last night about ten minutes from the end, which is something I have never done before. I saw the same despair and lack of hope on Meth Coast fans 2 years ago and have been around long enough to know things change in footy and get your rebuild and structures right like Magpies & Cats from 1999 & Hawks from 2004 and you can have yourselves up there for a decade and in with a shot of a flag every so many years with a few tweeks to a list. Wont say roll on dratf period & 2013 because we will be better, but I expect improvement without setting the world on fire

Just to confirm 4 "top quality" players who picked themselves were all that were left on the board of our 22. I'll just give Neeld more time and the opportunity to build his own list

Now you've confirmed what shite you talk, before a ball was kicked we were told the new game plan would take time to adapt. It's clear the amount of training and the focus on gameplan over results has been done with approval and a view to the future. The talk you disregard from Neeld about having to peel everything back would not have been allowed had he not been given the stamp of approval from the board. Or do you think the board rang Neeld up and said look we are going to give you the position but that stuff you said at the interview about us only having four quality players and needing to change the way we play, well we want you to forget that. I'm not blindly defending Neeld just find it astounding how some want him out because their expectations for 2011 are unrealistic

WYL the best thing for this team is the change of the baton in leadership, which has started this year, Gysberts is as quick as any in the AFL with his hands and decision making, he is Matt PRIDDIS minus the tank, which will come. Outside run with another preseason in Blease or a draft pick up with toe will see great use of Gysberts inside work. Good midfields have plenty of depth with multiple players rotating through, that will be trenners, gysberts,sylvia, jones & howe and grimes with occassional cameo stints. Jordie Mac will get run with roles from now on. Add to them Viney & the others we pick up and whichever F/A we pick up and things look up. Pretty happy with how the defence is coming on and improved ball use from midfield will see the forwards look better. As for Cook A/A U/18 CHF at 19 years FFS, Butcher who many here were calling for last year had done nothing for 2 years until given a run late last season. Give Cook time, I have seen a lot of Darling and he will never be the number 1 forward, which is what he would have been for us had he been picked up 2010. Very good 3rd tall but thats it

More carp from you wyl, Gysberts can't get a decent run at it through injuries and how good was your lovechild Darling last week as the main forward.

At least I'll be there to say goodbye to Greeny if this is his final game. Great servant to the club

I see benefits both ways, but really 2013 has to be the focus, whilst also giving some on the edge a run for 7 weeks may have benefits in them not being fearful of going straight out and may show Neeld something when he looks towards trade and end of year cull. The most recent scenario we have is Meth Coast from 2010, they put the cue in the rack and got their players fit and had long steady pre seasons to work on their game plan and build elite fitness. Whilst I am fully aware we don't have the Cox's, Kerr's, Glass's & Lecras, there is nothing to say we wont pick up and equivalant to Gaff in the draft and one of our 4th year players doesn't step up like Shuey. Whilst I don't think our list is capable of doing what the Eagles did in 2011 as we don't currently have their A graders, a good pre season has to be the priority, our best 22 and limited injuries for 2013 will see dramatic improvement