Jaded No More

What free kicks are these fuckwits paying?! Seriously. Sickening.

And it's a training drill. Another weekend ruined and just before my birthday. Thanks as usual Melbourne.

[censored] you umps and [censored] you Melbourne for those kicks inside 50!!!

Come on, if you don't expect bias umpiring here when can you expect it? Doesn't help that we can't kick

I like that despite being signed for 2 more years accordingly to the commentators Melbourne hasn't signed Hogan yet Our delivery inside 50 is rubbish

I just hope that we at least put in some effort, because I really don't want to see a 100+ loss that will put a veil of negativity on my weekend. Again.

I'm really not sure what the point of this thread is. Find me one poster on here who said Roos isnt miles ahead of Neeld? Neeld was an unmitigated disaster that nearly ruined our club. To say Roos is better than him is like saying your 1972 Hyundai is worse than your 2015 BMW.

They are obviously working with JHK on specific things and want him to keep learning We are going to get smashed and this could well be Bail's last game. I am hardly bothered.

Because we got nothing else? Who do you suggest we play?

Laugh. Cry. Have the best pre-birthday weekend ever. Spend my long weekend watching the replay 8 times.

Wow surprise indeed. Given my love for all things Tom McDonald, I am quite happy with this. Are they just trying to generate interest in the game? Petracca to make a surprise debut in Round 23 to get more than 18 people to the game?

Privately. Not publicly. I don't like seeing players disagreeing on the field. It shows a lack of unity and it tells your opponent that we are a mess and don't play as a team. Ripe for the picking.

I still have no [censored] idea how any of this impacts the players abilities to compete.

Tyson?

Or a premiership depends on which day you visit Demonland.

If our feelings as supporters rubbed off on players, our players would have beaten goddamn North Melbourne by now, and flattened Brent Harvey in the process. How we feel and think as a supporter group should have nothing to do with player performance. We turn up every week and we cheer as loud as anyone when we win. We also express our displeasure when we lose, but compared to other supporters, we are mild. I don't see our supporters spitting and giving our players the fingers when they lose. We also rarely boo the team, and boy do they deserve to be booed from time to time for their disgusting lack of effort. I wonder how our players would feel if they played for Richmond or Collingwood and were on the type of losing streak we've been on. They wouldn't be able to walk down the street without being "veiled by negativity". I find the whole idea completely dumb, and I think Roos has run out of excuses, so he's using supporter mindset. He knows he can't blame the past anymore and that ultimately he is responsible. He is responsible for lifting moral and changing the negative mindset within the club. Then watch our quickly supporters change from negative to positive!

He can be filthy but he needs to learn to reign that in on gameday. It's a bad look and it doesn't help anything. It just makes him look like a petulant child who won't share his toys. I get that playing with a bunch of morons who can't kick to a lead, and having your space taken by your own teammates is annoying. But you deal with it in team meetings and at the breaks. You don't throw a hissy fit on the field, it's completely unprofessional and achieves nothing. Yes Hogan is an amazing talent, but it is his first season. If I was Cross and he yelled at me, I'd tell him to go stick it.

Amen He might be correct, but for gods sake why bring more negative attention to the club?! You Paul are exactly the type of negative supporter Roos doesn't want to hear from anymore. Just shut it. You had your turn, you didn't succeed. Move on.

The one area we have improved on drastically under Roos is contested possession differentials, which is certainly an "effort based" statistic. Having said that, our effort around the ground and in centre clearances was deplorable on Sunday. In fact our centre clearance set ups are pretty questionable, and we often have no idea how to rove Gawn's hitouts.

A champion of this club who has suffered more than most. His competitiveness and loyalty is amazing and I wish that the next 100 games of his career are a hell of a lot more successful than the last 200 have been. Absolutely deserves success, and his teammates putting in a good effort this week.

Depends what my dad would like to do I personally don't give two shits anymore and I hate that stadium and would rather not waste another weekend feeling like crap after a poor performance.

6 wins is a fail, pure and simple. 8 wins would have been a pass. Yes we won games we didn't expect, but we lost so many games we absolutely should have won. To lose to Essendon and Carlton this year is unacceptable, and we barely beat Brisbane. The lack of consistent effort is what hurts. We have shown glimpses, but we did that under Bailey too, with some massive wins and upsets. Have we improved since the days of Neeld, yes? Is that an achievement to be proud of? no. It's like being at rock bottom and not digging yourself an even deeper hole. Well done, you haven't gotten worse and you climbed up a few inches only to fall back down. We hold some of the most embarrassing records in league history, especially when it comes to winning 2 games in a row. I see positive signs in Hogan, Brayshaw, Salem, Viney, but then I think why would these players stick around, or worse, not follow their current leaders and become the same inconsistent bunch of players they currently look up to? To still be leaving games of football after so many years wanting more effort, is unacceptable. I do not care how young the list is, effort should never be questioned, and sadly with our team it's been in question for a decade and nobody has given us answers or solutions.

The only Essendon player I'd go near is Zaharakis- clean from the drug saga and quick Plus one less player to have destroy us every single time we play Essendon

I've lived thru Scully-Trengove-Jurrah-Aussie-Clark. It's a miracle I haven't had a nervous breakdown yet. MFCSS is to be expected. Having said that, Hogan keeps me coming to games and I hope that will be the case until I'm 40 and he's 32.

Enjoy it while it lasts. Can't see him sticking around this mediocrity