Jaded No More

This points system is working a treat for us Also, in more exciting news, we just got pick 94 for Fitzy! #winning (in all seriousness, that is not bad, since we can use that to upgrade Harmes or Vanders with that)

I will say this, I'm really glad that we have a good working relationship with so many clubs, especially GC & GWS. I bet that GC wouldn't have honored a deal, or even contemplated doing one with Essendon or Collingwood. We go about our business without trying to 'screw' anyone else, and that is why we can get good win-win deals done. It's a credit to our football department.

Unless the big fish is a free agent...

Obviously that player is not a GC player, so no Prestia. The plot thickens

Interesting deal. Looks great on paper... unless we finish bottom 4 next year!

Has Gubby Allan ever said anything that wasn't at least partially a lie?

Collingwood can do what they like. They are clearly above the rules. Isn't it sickening to think what Eddie would say if this was a Collingwood player heading to GWS, instead of the other way around? Disgusting, disrespectful, and apparently also illegal in AFL terms... but not if you're Collingwood I suppose.

I hope like hell that Presita's injury comes good and that this trade we've been pushing for for so long does actually eventuate next year. Otherwise, it's been a complete waste of our time.

Two reasons why they are keeping him this year: 1- always a chance to change his mind. If they do well and we don't for example, which could well happen, he may choose to stay 2- his injury right now would be lowering his value. If he gets fit next season, he's still not a free agent and all of a sudden he's worth even more

It works if your window is open, thus you need players to fill gaps for a push at a flag and therefore expect your future pick not to be of very high value anyway. It doesn't work if you're not a destination club and expect to have early round picks the following year. I would be pretty disappointed if we traded next years picks unless we were in a position to gain a very good player. Since this isn't something we have any ability in doing, we have nothing to worry about.

Good times. Demonland says "delist" Player comes runner up in B&F

I was told that he was carrying a leg injury all year and basically told to "suck it up". He still had a good season, it was actually his kicking that was a bit off this year. Might have had something to do with the leg injury.

I really wish Toumpas all the best. I hope he makes it.

He is a class act isn't he? Explains why he was a Collingwood fan growing up. I don't want players like that at our club, no matter how good they are. And he isn't even very good. Enjoy your lazy turnover merchant Pies.

Lets hope pick 3 ends up better than Toumpas, or many of the other early picks we have had that went bust I wish we could attract actual ready made A grade players, but I recognise that not even players at our own club are always keen to stay in it, so we have little chance of attracting good players with multiple options.

If we manage to keep Hogan, everyone at the club deserves a big [censored] medal... Perhaps even a premiership medal!

We'll probably trade him back to a WA club for pick 72 and a used footy in two years time

What really hurts is that once again we have [censored] up a top 10 pick. They should just stop giving them to us. Or better still we should stop being crap at football so we stop getting them. Oh and also that spud Henderson is apparently worth more than Howe. I die.

Just once I want to come out first in something. We basically traded Toumpas for pick 50, three seasons after investing pick 4 into him. I would rather back him in and delist him in two years than take a punt on pick 50. I wish him luck and I wish Howe failure.

Wait, nothing has been confirmed yet right? Lets wait for official trade confirmation before we all go nuts. If however the deal above is correct, than as per usual, we got screwed by stronger clubs and [censored] players changing their mind and playing games with us.

I think we did the right thing letting him go, I just question the timing. I would think we could have waited until after trade week to delist him. He may have netted us nothing, or he could have been a deal sweetener for a club. Now we'll never know. Still, I wish him the best and hope he gets another chance somewhere.

Kent is very important to our structure and is a very good player. However I read the article on our website about his injury and I'm really worried about his fitness and ability to get back to 100% full speed going forward. Sounds like a very nasty injury. This still takes nothing away from his talent. He is a very good player when he isn't injured.

If his recruitment alone makes Salem a better player and a midfielder, it was worth it. I rate Salem only behind Hogan & Brayshaw for talent* *Apologies to Petracca- waiting to see him in action

He would never take that risk, because he won't end up at Collingwood if he did that, especially given the shallow draft this year. I would almost be fine with Howe's decision, if the guy didn't d!ck us around all season, delayed contract talks, and decided now, halfway thru trade week, to make up his damn mind. Just as he is looking out for his own interests, and his own interests only, so should we. I am sick to death of players thinking they can treat us with contempt because we aren't one of the 'big clubs'. I would say to him "we'll try to deal with Collingwood, but we won't be giving up a good deal for you, so start looking at Queensland properties or get ready to go to the draft". This bloke has been around a few season, we plucked him from obscurity and gave him every opportunity to become a professional AFL player. We owe this guy nothing. Absolutely nothing. And he obviously feels the same way about us.

2016 1st round pick and Kennedy for Howe? I don't like this future draft picks trading, but we can't get much more from them given they are trying to get Treloar.