Grapeviney

what's wrong with the other 43 threads on this ?

agreed, and i think it's a shame the guy is coach (sort of) of another club; it's pathetic how he feels the need to mention his melbourne experience every chance he gets. move on!

watts looks as skinny as a rake in that team running picture.. legs like twigs

anyone else noticed the massive media campaign spruiking bananas on telly and radio recently ? http://www.bandt.com.au/breaking-campaigns/elevencom-pushes-na-na%E2%80%9D-campaign-for-aussie-banana tanking? that's a no no ! list management? that's a na na

i don't have any tanking gags but a funny thing happened to me last night.. i went to pick up some fish and chips in windsor and chris judd was there, doing the same and i thought to myself "hang on, don't you prefer chicken wings?"

not sure whether you have your memberships or stands mixed up Syl but the Legends are in the Olympic and the Redlegs in the Southern

more importantly, zig was always a big part of grand final day

Zig Then you could have "Zig zags out of trouble" etc

Yes. The supporters who take notice of things like drafting and the improvement of TMac and Blease etc are pretty much the rusted-on members anyway. The fence-sitters and fair-weather supporters we need to improve our tally will not join as members till we start winning games consistently. I'd be surprised if mebership didn't fall again in 2013

only time will tell whether our window for bottoming out has closed who knows, maybe we can conjure a way to keep it prised open for another year or two

jay viney's hair was an important part of the blonde-tipped melbourne midfield culture of the late 80's

also has a better understanding of philosophy apparently

Easy to fortget that after Barty's brilliant goal late in the 3rd we were only a few points down .. i agree that there is hope to be found even among the ruins of 2012

Not sure if it's been mentioned here before, but any club considering Wellingham needs to be mindful of the fact that he badly damaged his fringe recently, according to this report ... http://thedailymaggot.com/?p=2604

Wonder if Norm is still stewing - posthumously - over Froggy's defiance of team rules..

no, this is a mistake.. phil scully doesn't run anywhere

yummm. charas please...

me too willo i hate watching other teams playing good finals footy on our home ground in front of big crowds.. i long for the day when we play in a big game again, one that is the talk of the town all week and draws 80,000 to the 'G to witness edge-of-your seat exciting footy

"Players raffle, 3 for 2 dollars"... RIP Dudley

yes, as was his massive torp against Carlscum two weeks later in the Prelim. was from inside the centre square if you don't mind !

this is too good to leave languishing on the first page

as opposed to the holier-than-thou types who frequent this place ..

I hear what you're saying Chook and has been discussed elsewhere (the trengove reality check comments), the club has its media obligations including the provision of fluff to supporters. But I detect - in Grimes' comments and those of others - a deep-seated belief in the path the club / team is on. JG is evidently a good communicator but I'm inclined to think there is core group of players and staff who have genuinely bought in to the vision and are convinced they are on the path to success. I find it intriguing that a player with just 13 wins from 53 games feels like his timing at the club is perfect. If that makes me a sucker, then so be it ... it's not like I haven't been seduced by (false) hope before!

.. so becaue he hasn't thanked the MFC publicly he is somehow less of a leader among his people ? and you think I'm not making sense !

Why does Liam need to make a public announcement of thanks and gratitude? Presumably so some people can feel good about themselves and the way they supported a 'troubled' indigenous player... Implicit in this is the qualification that such players are only deserving of our support if they conform to our norms on etiquette and behaviour.. If you'd read Rudeboy's book - try pages 131 & 132 - you'd know that a whole different set of norms apply. The word thank you doesn't even exist in the Walpiri language. At one point, Ian Flack was worried because players who had been trying to help Liam around the club were miffed that he never thanked them. Rudeboy pointed out that in all the time LJ had lived with him, he'd never once said thank you.. there was no need to..because it's all about obligations and reciprocity - you do what you're required to do and there is no need for pleases and thank-yous In any case, who's to say he hasn't said thank the club privately?