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Interesting - as so many have been saying over the years "what if x was at Hawthorn, Collingwood etc.. wouldn't they be a lot better." Hawks also must have thought that they saw something in him and could fix what we couldn't; maybe it wasn't just 'our poor player development' but rather just him?

Surely all will depend on how the other mids develop: he has some positives that others so far have not shown - G&D and tagging ability, but needs to work on his decision making and delivery options. Time will tell, probably this season. It would be sad if such a great guy was overtaken, but also good as it would mean that we had put together a really good midfield. I don't think he fits any other role either.

Jury out to consider the case over the next 7 months or so, weighing the contemporary evidence as stated by so many - will return to court in October with their verdict.

Move on....the AFL Integrity Inquisitors may have a look at it.

Ho....hum How long until round 1? Seems a bit of a pointless exercise but at least many of our prized assets are being protected from the country oval.

In breaking news from Ms Wilson "It is rumoured that Robson may have at some stage spoken with Cameron Schwab, providing further incontrovertible evidence that there has been serious malpractice occurring at Essendon, and by association at Melbourne, who after all play in the same competition as Essendon, under Schwab's watch."

If it cuts out the slide to take out the legs, well and good. Too much risk of serious injury to the man tackled, and the 'culprit' may end up with a free for high contact, self induced. Does a strict interpretation mean that going for a spoil and brushing the shin with the arms means a free? If so it will remove a manoeuvre that shows true determination and courage.

I am sure that everyone most here would take any of those in a flash Bring on 2014

Good news that.....but please assure us that you weren't the guy who said $ulky was also going to be a Demon for life :-))

...and I am sure that the AFL would heavily fudge the data.

As CBDees said - who are they and where do they play? Big, small, forward, mid etc etc??????

Nick Smith #2?????

If that is the level of "evidence" that is required for a conviction, ie rumour and hearsay about a joke about something that was not illegal the previous years and was never declared to be illegal prior to Moron McLean's utterances and Caro's seeing the opportunity to pursue her petty personal vendetta, then Ned Kelly, Martin Bryant or Julian Knight would never have been found guilty of anything. EDIT: Apologies for the long rambling sentence.

Rohan Bail? As I mentioned in another post, it may be best for Rohan and for the club for Rohan to call it time before any further damage is done. I would imagine that O'Dea vs Greening would nowadays end up in court.

I guess we may be needing ECT if he is ready to play and he isn't allowed to. I havent seen the game yet but some have mentioned Carey, J Brown or pre-knee Ox. Are these fair comparisons at his age?

I may re-subscribe to The Age because Ms Wilson, being a true professional journalist, of course will go for the Toiges hammer and tongs........won't she? Had Dumbitriou has anything to say on these latest revelations yet?

....maybe trying to lure him, maybe with our 500K, to do a cameo at GWS???

Someone giving Robinson what he gave to Bail would be a great start, preferably in a legitimate contest and not, like the original dog act, behind the play. And McLean doing bugger all then limping off to the boos of the Demon faithful would almost make the day...... but a crushing win by the Dees is what matters most.

It may well be that in fact these interests concur ie all would be better off were he to pull the plug before he does become like Daniel Bell.

The change we need, at least on this board, is a "Do not like" button for this sort of post!

Dimitriou and the misnamed Integrity Commissioners or whatever their title would, by their very selective choice if target run her very close in that race. After all, Ms Wilson is just obsessed with Schwab: AD had an opportunity to either open the investigation to include all who indulged in 'list management' or to have just said "Brock is an embittered dimwit" or words to that effect but chose not to. He is the bigger hypocrite; she is just a fool.

What a vindictive swine : she just won't let go, will she. Blatantly lying saying that MFC are guilty. Surely The Age cannot allow that headline to go unchallenged. And no doubt totally pi55ed off that CS was exonerated.

Sorry....but I can't see what we have been found guilty of, therefore why we have copped this heavy fine.

I have read the AFL website release - just what offence have we been fined for? Vlad "didn't like" what our guys said?

Goodvibes - good post. But I am a bit concerned about one word in the thread title: I received a "warning" from a zealous moderator who took exception to my use of a word that implies that the said so called leading journalist could herself have been concerned for her own well being were she to have been living in Salem, Massachusetts around the year 1692.