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No, your right that they had talents. But when the going got tough, they got going, the other way. Talk about Morton. Those boys learnt their stuff with us, from ours. Our culture was woeful. soft, talented but soft lazy & for the individual to show off. All good Hollywood stuff.

They epitomized our soft front runner culture, which they learnt from our club when young, but weren't leaders enough to go against this culture, to turn it around, & change it. They are not Nathan Jones's bootlace.

In a different environment & culture, lets not start a new Ol' boys club. They played here & amateurishly. That's enough, not here for their retirement funds as well.

Yes, but swings and roundabouts, we can get a 2nd Rnd pick back in for Hibberd via horse trading, after we get the Hogan contract sorted.

Good to hear he hasn't been dragging his tail Jack.

Trade him now if he's grumbling, Freo's 2016 1st Rnd pick, plus they're 2017 1st Rnd pick & Barlow or similar ; for Hogan + our 2016 2nd Rnd pick. I'll be OK with that.

The clubs who can roll the dice with injuries are the power clubs, with elite foundations, set in stone. We're not there yet.

Yes, but the pair of threes come very cheap; on high quality paper, just not big on trumping others hands. But with the hawks spell weaving, magic often happens. All of a sudden, you may have 2 Kings?

Give him time with the Hawks attitudes & culture, They straitened our Frawley. He'll need another two seasons, & I reckon he'll fill out and grow mature They will compete against one another. Creating competition to improve. A team list isn't a pack of playing cards where you have one of each.

We need 2 of them. A 22 something from another club, who wants to come home. And we need a mature tried & tested follower type, but whom has injuries, or hasn't the opportunities they would like, that won't cost us valuable draft picks.

We're looking for a cheap fillip, to tide us over as our young ones mature. Trouble is many clubs are looking as well.

So was Kreuzer last year. Hip. we missed out there.

Hehas the leap, now he has size on his frame. Currently others in front of him. I think he can become that follower. I think he is athletic enough, & quick enough.

http://www.sandringhamfc.com.au/player-list.aspx He's just filled out, time to pounce, before he does find belief.

Lloyd is no list management expert P-man. His thinking is just 'inside the box', & that's about it.

? He's not retiring along with DC Cometti, is he by chance ?

No Way, 16 a side. pfft Simply reduce the rotation numbers allowable until the players fatigue & cannot cover the ground anywhere near as much that they can flood back & forth. Why do these intelligent pircks keep thinking they should change the game further,,, to try to undo a scourge upon us. Instead of just winding back the problem. Is there a secret agenda to turn this game into an international Gaelic oriented game ?

Cross, Daniel Exactly chell. The young guys need older heads to follow; the old heads that will bend over the ball to pick it up, play physical, & run hard both ways, & show the right direction thru the week & game-days. Chunk needs a chopout in the middle from another mature headed mid. If we want to make inroads toward September next year, then all the best old Pro's are needed to help. He would be following the footsteps of Daniel Cross & Bernie Vince in recent times, who we have used to help us, as we become harder workers & more professional. One year I see as beneficial to us onfield & thru the week on training days. And at Casey if needs be,

So a club wants to sell an out and out superstar, as they try to repair? Pass.

Yep. Undoes all the hard work from those upfield, & lowers the spirits. Once in a while, is forgivable. Finals are very different.

Fortunately we have a little time to see what comes along Re followers. I would rather someone who can play the deep pocket & then go in the ruck for up to 10mins per Qtr. That may not be Zac Clarke? I'm happy enough to stay with Spencil, until a genuine ruck proposition comes along as the No 2 ruckman on our list. IMO need someone who can be a genuine threat up forward as a strong mark & kick for goal, bust packs etc. the Mitch Clark style footy. I think someone around the 198cm-203cm height. Is Paddy Ryder available?

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-28/big-docker-clarke-signs-for-another-season & http://www.aflplayerratings.com.au/Ratings/Player/114741/Zac-CLARKE A temp fix maybe. No long contract though. http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pc-fremantle-dockers--zachary-clarke

Thats good. We need some classy smalls, with speed. Ainsworth is an interesting type I think.

um, not about you, je roos salem. But about the possibility of the players going into that game under-prepared mentally. Just glad that didn't eventuate, & we've had a good win. you can be as cocky as you want 'jrs'.. its all good. but I didn't want our players to bow out in one set yet again. As has been the recent result for our players in recent finals. The up-shot is we pushed thru hard for a very important win for our club & players.

Where did you here this AAC ? I'd be OK if they want to give Jake 3 yrs contract. If this were to happen, we would have to ensure we grabbed a mature backup ruck/follower.