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funnily enough, watching green play against the filth, i thought EXACTLY this - very much in the clarry mould

because - unlike oliver and to a lesser extent viney - he only works hard offensively, not defensively

nothing; afl will do everything they can to make sure it continues we all know that the only reason this season is going on is cos of broadcast $$ to keep clubs afloat

only reason this season is going on is cos of broadcast $$ to keep clubs afloat

bt was banging on about this during the coverage brayshaw can only play one position - inside mid he was pretty okay yesterday i thought; still doesn't work hard defensively but he's not on his pat malone there

yep most bizarre season ever playing at the g i maintain you MUST have two actual key forwards my ins / outs don't change, personally...but based upon seeing the second half again and lockhart's behaviour he really should be dropped...although i still struggle to justify why jetta was dropped in the first place IN: weideman, bennell, jetta OUT: melksham, avb, lockhart

unlikely to see him for the remainder of the year

either both sides were very ordinary or both sides were very mediocre or both sides were very bad or both sides were very good i think it was sort of somewhere in between ugly contest played between two evenly-matched defensive sides; reminded me a lot of the tiggas v the filth game on resumption neither side could really effectively break down the other's defensive structures it was a seesawing battle of skill error and general ineptitude i was expected to get absolutely hammered, so technically we did far better than i expected still disappointing, but we've had the weirdest start to the resumption of any club, having also had our rd 1 effected as we knew the season was in jeopardy before we took to the field gonna be a weird old year

i dunno if they'll change much considering we're going to play on a smaller ground, but... if you're going to play vandenberg and melksham as default chf's...why not just pick a tall who can play as chf? out: avb, melksham in: weideman, bennell i'd do jetta for lockhart too, but i don't think the selection committee will

6: oliver 5: petracca 4: brayshaw 3: harmes 2: tomlinson 1: gawn all mids and - for the most part - i thought we were beaten in the midfield! but our forwards were terrible and our defenders were merely okay it was a weird old game

i thought he was okay

quite the differential!

1.12....

crows 2017-2020 = demons 2006-2009? came close with an ageing list, lost players to other sides, and now look utterly inept

based on how rusty and then exhausted the peptides looked last night after one game in three months, i don't hold out a huge amount of hope tbh cats by 42

or we could pay significant coin to a player who, on a reduced list of 35, has shown zero ability to get on the park for the last two years i still think he's headed north

fogarty just did his shoulder unfortunately he might be another in a long list of player's whose body is simply not made for the rigours of afl-level football

how is he different to the weed tho? good tall at junior level who at senior level isn't mobile enough, skilled enough, hard enough, so basically has to be the part time forward / ruck role

pass for mine

he's also a free agent, so it's out of our hands to a greater / lesser degree

it's literally two games into the season so a titch early in this crazy year but this is the sort of stuff i love pondering...so i'll play firstly, i would rather get hogan back than daniher - at least one of them can get on the park, even if he looked horrible tonight who has potential value and best 22 possibilities at other clubs but MIGHT be excess on our list? i'd say there's only a few players that have genuine value on our list that i would be comfortable parting with: viney (free agency compensation) brayshaw preuss (crazy that he has value, but ruckmen always seem to find a home) hunt anb personally i would say it's either viney OR brayshaw as inside mids, and hunt OR anb as forward options who needs inside mids? carlton, essendon, fremantle, geelong (regeneration), saints maybe brayshaw, ollie wines, the crouch bros. could all be inside mids looking for new homes in 2021 - get a first rounder for gus from any of the above clubs and my jaw would hit the ground; i struggle with what he's worth cos sometimes he plays and i think he's worth less than a third rounder on the trade table who needs small pressure forwards? well, pretty much anyone other than st. kilda and the tigers, who seem to have a heap of small forward types, want depth in this position and hunt has a real bonus of speed in his arsenal given that anb is an sa boy, i personally think he'd slot in nicely at the crows - if we could engineer it to get rory laird as part of the deal i'd be pretty pleased...it would be interesting if the crows demanded anb and sparrow for laird, which i'd be somewhat tempted to do tbh, but the reality is i think they think laird's worth a first round pick...so...... who needs a ruck, or at least a second option? essendon, maybe sydney with naismith doing another acl, but other than that there might not be much demand for one this year we traded tyson for preuss and a late pick (which we used to draft hore, who - you never know - pies might want to bring him home as an intercept half back next year as coverage for howe), so it's not likely he has much value - we might do preuss and our second rounder for essendon's second rounder, say, or perhaps preuss and brayshaw for essendon's first rounder, which we use get laird? meanwhile, hore and our third rounder for the filth's second rounder? net result: IN: laird, 2020 2nd round draft pick OUT: brayshaw, preuss, hore it all comes down to list changes, but if say it is suddenly 35 on the list and only having to use two picks at the 2020 draft, i'd go with the following list changes: Jones - retirement Hibberd - retirement / delisted Kolodjashnij - retirement / negotiated payout Nietschke - retired / delisted Baker - delisted Chandler - delisted C Wagner - delisted J Wagner - delisted Dunkley - delisted it's going to be pretty brutal if it's a reduction to 35 on the list (worse still if we have to carry kk) and i don't think any of the above would have much value to any other clubs it's possible the likes of weideman or o mac might have value at the trade table...but for what? if you only have to use the two picks this year, you'd want it to be a future pick, and i don't think either is worth much more than a speculative third rounder...at best i can't see either having much value for other clubs - if they can't make our side, not sure whose they would be making - so they might both prefer to stay with us and fight for their spot, plus of the two only o mac is out of contract at the end of 2020 anyway 35 players really doesn't seem like enough to get through a full 22 game, 120 min per game season to me, but if the above happened this would be the mfc 2021 list: May Salem Harmes Jackson Viney Lever Spargo Gawn Bedford Oliver Langdon Bennell Melksham Hannan Tomlinson vandenBerg Jordon Rivers T McDonald Weideman O McDonald Hunt Neal-Bullen Fritsch Sparrow Petty Pickett Brown Jetta Lockhart Smith Bradtke Laird 2020 2nd round pick 2020 2nd round pick (the filth's) possible side, based on what we're putting out vs geelong and what we ran with against carlton... B: Lockhart - May - Smith HB: Salem - Lever - Harmes C : Langdon - Petracca - Laird HF: Hannan - T Mac - Melksham F: Hunt - Fritsch - Pickett Foll: Gawn - Oliver - Viney I/c: Jackson - Bennell - Tomlinson - vandenBerg Emerg: Sparrow - Weideman - ANB - Jetta

we literally beat the blues last time we played them was that one very long 50m penalty or a very short 2x 50m penalties? i thought maybe betts gave another away for chatting back to the maggot

more likely their p-33

peptides vs carltank is one of the worst games in football since melbourne were at their worst and we beat the peppies thanks to salem's goal bad, bad footy

gc17 look super