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double shot old fashioned here

i liked jones behind the ball for me that's the role for him for the remainder of the year puts severe doubt in lewis getting a game again; in some respects it'd be 'nice' for him to come in this week to play a defensive forward role on hodge...but i can't see him playing unless he has a blinder in the vfl

could be richo's last quarter in charge right now

was very good today i thought what're the odds the mrp suspend him for the high hit on walters tho?

6: Gawn 5: Plugger Mac 4: Viney 3: Oliver 2: Lockhart 1: Frost

I think my bake of T Mac on the game day thread turned him back into Plugger Mac for the second half! Nice to get a win; still a lot to work on

A Preuss who can run out 2 and a bit quarters would be more valuable than T Mac who stops running midway thru 1st quarter

either hill would perfectly suit our system, but as others have said the balance of time and effort put into ed langdon clearly has us chasing him, whereas the hawks have put in the work to recruit brad hill back for at least 18-24 months if stephen hill has decided that he wants out as a result of his brother also leaving, i'd happily have him if we can't get brad, even though he's four years older and clearly prone to injury

hammy went ping, delaying his 300th to a game of far more significance than the one against gc17 next weekend he was absolutely dominant as a forward

i'm presuming cos we didn't have the capacity / desire to match a significant three-year deal for a player who was so injury-prone and regularly failed to perform to a required level

kent got offered a significant three-year deal at the aints; he'd have been a fool to sign with us by comparison

i'm confident he's the sort of player that can work his way back into form cos his workrate is excellent

from all reports it seems like there's a clear 1 and 2 and then throw the blanket over the rest

His inside mid work in the last month has been terrific - it’s where he plays his best football We don’t need another inside mid

Writing on the wall for McCartney, clearly Now has no development with players, just with the assistant coaches

Bet was 5x the size of heath shaw’s outlay on his skipper scoring first goal in a game eight years ago So, by rights, he should cop a $100k fine and be suspended by 40 weeks

i've been hypercritical of gus for a while now, primarily cos his ball usage and his defensive efforts are less than ideal for a player of his undoubted ability it's the same as dom tyson at the moment - he's a good inside midfielder but he can't play any other role, which limits his flexibility and the approach that we can take to using him in a different role as required i'm not certain that trading him would be the ideal scenario as he, ideally, simply replaces the role that jones plays once he retires at the end of 2020 as a plug-n-play certain first-start mid rotation to lose dom, gus, and jones (presuming the latter retires at the end of 2020) in three consecutive years would reduce our option of inside mid stocks significantly over a three year period if he was to go, you'd want it to be for something quite valuable, and i'm not sure gus brayshaw = ben brown plus north's second rounder is a fair deal, but it's what i'd want, at a minimum

no it wouldn't, i don't think gus and our first rounder and gw$ would probably ask for more for kelly in order of preference to jettison from our best midfield talent i'd go: brayshaw viney harmes oliver gawn and i'd have petracca ranked btw viney and harmes, as i think he's clearly more talented than anyone bar oliver and gawn on that list

you'd get more for gus

can't see t mac being dropped interesting to see who mans up on hogan as he plays mostly up the ground and working back, which doesn't suit may as a 'last man back' approach

the general vibe seems to be that gus could be on the market, i guess because he's been moved out of the midfield make-up from time to time over the year so far personally i think trading yr best players is fraught with danger; as much as his kicking skills drive me up the wall (he's no better a user of the ball than dom tyson), to lose a key midfield mover is a massive risk, particularly with jones moving out of the mix - to lose another midfielder within two years (presuming jones retires at the end of 2020) would be a huge risk if we get offered ben brown for starters? i'd look at it and then ask for a second round pick as well - brown is a gun forward but 27 years old ideally we need to add outside run and spread to the likes of brayshaw, not rob peter to pay paul

Pitched outside off, impacting outside off, hence coatrack call - and he’s already called it not out, but I suspect more cos he thought it might I have hit the bat first Sri Lanka are not bowling well at all No Libba no Footscray?

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from an overall perspective i'd like to see us forming some cohesion between the various zones - at the moment it doesn't look like the mids know what the forwards are doing, the forwards don't know how the ball is going to come in (other than not kicked to their advantage), and the backline has basically been completely rebuilt so needs time to gel i'd like to think that the heart and desire that i think we've shown over the last several weeks can not be lost as the season slips away; it's not the effort that is the issue at the moment, but instead the execution...our skills are probably the worst or second worst in the league as it stands 1: may - really show that he's going to be the player we've been promised he's going to be, especially defensive / offensive ability 2: jones - make the call that he won't be skipper next year but will play on with us, as he currently deserves to do so 3: salem - move further up the field and start impacting the scoreboard on a regular basis; really use his skills to advantage 4: harmes - keep winning the ball, negating his oppo and learn to lower his eyes with i50 kicks to advantage of forwards 5: petracca - keep doing what he's doing in terms of being an i50 target but start showing some selfishness and scoring ability 6: lewis - he's already announced his retirement; will be interesting to see what farewell game/s he gets; play him forward! 7: viney - stop trying to take every oppo on and start being more constructive with his ball use, plus show leadership 8: lever - start taking those marks that we know he can where he's reading the flight, and also directing backline as leader 9: spargo - start to show some semblance of form and ability of impacting the play; i believe he can 10: brayshaw - keep winning the ball but start to use it more effectively, and continue to show greater defensive intent 11: gawn - just learn to kick straight from a set shot, he's otherwise been awesome 12: bedford - develop in the magoos, maybe a game late if he deserves it 13: oliver - start being a lot more constructive with his handball and putting players out into space, learn to kick 14: hibberd - more run to break lines and a greater sense of defensive accountability when called to go back 15: stretch - make the most of his opportunities and start to use his run to take the game on; justify his list spot in 2020 16: kolodjashnij - show why he was pick 5 not too long ago; use the ball well, link up, and kick it well, plus better defensive workrate 17: frost - show that he belongs in the side alongside lever and may rather than being an also-ran 18: melksham - get fit, come back, be part of a successful 2020 side 19: hannan - better ball use as he starts to get the run back into his legs to break the lines, and set up for a big 2020 20: maynard - come back from injury and justify why he should remain on the list next year 21: preuss - get fit enough and the game awareness to play afl, showcase his wares in tandem with gawn later in the year 22: vandenberg - get fit, come back, be part of a successful 2020 side 23: jordon - develop in the magoos, maybe a game late if he deserves it 24: kennedy harris - continue his comeback from injury and justify why he should remain on the list next year 25: tom mcdonald - start to show some semblance of the form that he had last season 26: weideman - continue to impact the contest and show that the last handful of games last season weren't the exception, not the rule 27: nietschke - get fit, come back, be part of a successful side as he develops his skills 28: oscar mcdonald - get some confidence back and if he gets the opportunity at senior level again, make the most of it 29: hunt - nail his shots when he has them and be more than just an occasional presence in the forward line, particularly defensively 30: neal-bullen - get some confidence back and if he gets the opportunity at senior level again, make the most of it 31: fritsch - stop being a jack of all trades, master of none, and instead cement his role through sheer form 32: sparrow - get fit, come back, be part of a successful side as he develops his skills 33: baker - continue to showcase that he's part of the best 22 going forward, and impact the scoreboard 34: hore - continue to showcase that he's part of the best 22 going forward, and develop a symbiosis with may and lever 35: petty - get fit, come back, be part of a successful side as he develops his skills 36: garlett - show more commitment for the ball, and justify why he should remain on the list next year (which, i think, he actually is) 37: chandler - develop in the magoos, maybe a game late if he deserves it 38: tim smith - have some luck with injury, and justify why he should remain on the list next year (which, i think, he actually is) 39: jetta - get fit, come back, be part of a successful 2020 side 40: corey wagner - make the most of his opportunities and start to use his run to take the game on; justify his list spot in 2020 41: lockhart - make the most of his opportunities and start to use his run to take the game on 42: josh wagner - make the most of his opportunities and start to use his run to take the game on; justify his list spot in 2020 43: walker - get over what sounds like a really nasty, career-limiting injury 44: joel smith - get fit, come back, be part of a successful 2020 side 45: keilty - have some luck with injury, and justify why he should remain on the list next year 46: bradtke - develop in the magoos and with the u/18 games 48: dunkley - develop in the magoos, maybe a game late if he deserves it from a competition wide perspective, i'm expecting two of geelong, collingwood, gw$, adelaide, and meth coke to be in the grand final of that lot, i suppose the lesser of the various evils is geelong...really, they need a premiership NOW given the state of their list; if you recruit dangerfield and ablett in consecutive years you SHOULD be playing in grand finals i actually think gw$ are a massive chance of winning the premiership this year, moreso than any other year gawn winning the brownlow would be fantastic, but it's extremely unlikely; it'll probably be sidebottom or steve coniglio in terms of our list make-up i expect the following are under pressure to be on the list next season: 6: lewis 15: stretch 20: maynard 24: kennedy harris 36: garlett 42: josh wagner 43: walker 45: keilty that'd be six off senior list, one off rookie, one off cat b rookie, which might be cutting a bit deep - i can see stretch, jkh, and garlett all deserving of a list spot in 2020 if their second half of the year is stronger than their first half in terms of free agents i'd be keen on, more or less in this order: steve coniglio (gw$) cam ellis-yolmen (crows) robbie gray (pear) brandon ellis (tigers) in terms of players out of contract at other clubs i'd be asking the question of: hugh greenwood (crows) daniel mcstay (bears) lewis taylor (bears) pat kerr (blues) brayden sier (filth) tom phillips (filth) darcy parish (peptides) connor blakley (freo) ed langdon (freo) griffin logue (freo) nakia cockatoo (cats) jack martin (gc17) sam day (gc17) sam durdin (kangas) karl amon (pear) shai bolton (tigers) jack billings (aints) jordan dawson (swans) zak jones (swans) josh dunkley (footscray) top 5 in order of preference: josh dunkley (footscray) tom phillips (filth) ed langdon (freo) jack martin (gc17) zak jones (swans) i want to hold onto whatever our first round pick ends up being and use it, and use it well - hayden young is currently a likely prospect at pick 3, our current choice i'd rather take a top pick unless we only shifted back a few spots (wouldn't want to be picking outside the top 9 for instance), and it would depend upon what we brought in via the other part of the trade - e.g. if it was pick 3 and our second rounder for sydney's pick 5 and zak jones, i'd probably do the deal i want oztraya to win the ashes and new zealand to win the odi world cup i'd like to see the matildas win the women's football world cup kawhi to go to the clippers, kd to go to the knicks, klay and draymond to stay with the warriors, and the 76ers to get some decent shooters around embiid and simmons...would be handy if the latter could learn how to shoot too.....

this is another example of there being too many teams and too many average players the skills; what skills?