daisycutter

where has he said that he expects him to be a KPP in 2012

Rubbish (re the player welfare argument) If the instruction to steer clear of a player is obviously intended towards not performing at best or losing a game then it is tanking. If the player then under instructions allows his player to beat him pointless then he is tanking too regardless of whether he was following instructions or not. It didn't work at Nuremburg and it doesn't work here Anway getting back to the original claim by you that McMahon Cup was the most blatant example of tanking. My belief is that the Kreuzer Cup was more blatant (or at least as prominent and obvious) If the AFL was so upset about McMahon Cup and wanting to extract some payback, why weren't they equally looking for payback over the Kreuzer Cup right............sure............(cough) .

we are talking here of Carlton not Bailey. You already agreed that Ratten told his players (or some of them) to not go near Trapper and that they didn't. That therefore makes them complicit in tanking. Like I said, simple logic

If the coach gave a player an instruction to tank and the players agreed then the players tanked. It's quite simple and a different proposition to playing players out of position and leaving key players on the bench at critical times and for long periods. The Carlton players tanked.

well explain how trapper johnstone got 40+ kicks with no-one within 10m of him if players didn't tank and how did we thrash a side that was roughly at our standard if not slightly better

In the McMahon Cup the coach tanked but the players tried to win.......result close game lost by kick after siren In the Kreuzer Cup the coach tanked and the players tanked..........result scum lost by a walkover you tell me which was more blatant

A lot of posters need to get their hand off of it re Sellar 5 years, 20 games and delisted and picked up at 54, yet people see him as a 'ready-to-play' KPP no less Get real people, he has an uphill battle ahead of him realistically and won't even squeeze in a full pre-season He's a long-shot but Casey should be pleased to get a big body down there

Nowhere near as blatant as the Kreuzer Cup............and...we damned near won the McMahon Cup!

you seriously believe the moon landing was faked?

I think when Dimwit said it was a stroke of genius, he was refering more to the fact that, with Phil's signing, he (Dimwit), would no longer be the fattest tool in the AFL.

Nup, he's now relying on the RD

Nah, I think it was just a reflection on the pies they had for lunch (Phat Phil provided them I believe)

dunno how you worked that out Lets assume no compo picks of any kind (very unlikely) except for us Bottom 9 picks (there are 18 clubs) Pick 10 (for 9th place) Pick 11 (for after 1st round compo) Pick 12 (for 10th place) Pick 13 (for mid first round compo - nb 'mid' is 'before finalists') Of course throw in other teams compo picks and it all slips further

JCB read yesterday's (Thurs) Hun article on Manson and see if you are still interested - Will a goanna hunter be AFL's next big thing in the national draft? Sounds like he would be much harder to tie down in Melbourne than Aussie.

you have to download microsucks' Siverlight (sp?) product first as bigpond uses it extensively

I don't think the report from his 'manager' in the Hun today did him any favours Wanted to be a part-time player

told you he was a rookie contender at best - too speculative

hahaha............he's got Dolly Parton instead

Will be the next [insert name of legendary player]

I agree with the general gist of what you are saying I think Green being the incumbent would be favorite for keeping the chair "warm" until someone else steps up, matures a little longer and makes for a "safer" decision. Just my 2c worth (regardless of how I rate Greeny's captaincy capabilities).

but will he turn up?

whats that got to do with tatoos rpfc

That's a bit unfair ht. If we are continually going to refer back to 186 then everyone will be tarnished and we will never move forward It may have been an aberration, a monumental low-point......but it should not be used as a yardstick

If you were talking about little league you might be making sense..................

and not only that, he also said "It's within the rules, it's in the salary cap, it's legitimate. We are a family code and it's good to keep fathers and sons together I think" How the eff is giving HWFUA a job in Sydney and his father a job in Melbourne keeping father and son together - sheesh wot a crock!.....you are a real [censored] Andrew