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I do know that. But the deals are done beforehand. Anyone could reneg on any deal but that's not the way to grease future wheels.

Taking a line through Martin's manager Ben's comments above I'd say GWS has done the deal in principal and we're not in the frame. If it's with GC and they'll end up with pick 1 & 2 I'd grow gloomy about them not nominating Viney. Maybe they'll insist we give them pick 3 for the 2nd mini-draft pick and then they'll have 1,2,3 this year. Can you catch paranoia through the internet?

Godwin Grech has the e-mail.

Roos is anti-Melbourne because our (previous?) draft driven list management approach is the opposite of his "money-ball" approach.

Fitzpatrick, Magner and Tynan explicitly named - does this give a key to final MFC 22 - Gysberts, Morton, Strauss, Tapscott?

I'm very interested to see the specific laws of the game that you're referring to

I imagine Brock has spent considerably more time training with Carlton PR and media management than with the team on the track this week.

Is it any different to deliberately conceding a behind to the opposition, so that you might promote a greater positive result later? As Clint points out, there is a difference between trying to lose (tanking) and not trying to win (developing). I'll make a further distinction in the trying to lose category - there's trying to lose so that you can win later with better draft picks - there's trying to lose for some betting related financial gain

Makes GWS position tricky, clearly they want to encourage the best players to nominate so they can extract maximum trade value, but if the player says I'll only nominate if you don't accept a deal from these clubs then it diminishes the bidders. http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/143167/default.aspx But I can't find a list

Clint's exactly right it's about motive, not about the specific actions.

Just don't engage him

FMD, why do you feed this idiot? But you did agree with it: http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/16100-what-is-the-essence-of-a-football-clubs-existence/page__st__175#entry253045 http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/16027-the-t-word/#entry250849

Thomo, I've generally extended the invitation but I've had no takers so far, Range Rover is waiting in his trench with his armoury and old dee is "grandfathering" - maybe you'll be the first. Please pen your press release here ...

Gerard's brother Greg is on our board - it's hard to believe he wishes us ill.

Stick to grandfathering

Look I'll pass on Range Rover's Life Coaching thanks all the same

I'm a believer yeah yeah. I'd ruck Clark part-time and have another mid, but there you go.

Dying to read your recommended text - don't be shy.

http://www.sen.com.au/audioplayer/Audio/Paul-Gardner/5415

Well I'm guessing he doesn't mean Geelong and WA boy O'Meara went to GC last year ...

Agree. Jack Viney's selection has been locked in for years.

No, no, apparently according to some in this thread we should have come out swinging ... http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/31017-schwab-and-mclardy-time-to-stand-up/ Swinging what is not clear though

That idiot Brian Taylor called for MFC to be kicked out of the competition - a million monkeys and a million typewriters - that idea would save me a lot of grief.

I don't think you've thought through exactly what you're saying here.

Look I put the challenge out to Old Dee who doesn't like our response, but apparently he hasn't revisited this thread or I'm sure he'd be forthcoming. I'll generalise the invitation to anyone. Pen your press release here ...