old55

If we waited longer we might not have got Byrnes - we're not exactly an attractive destination - we need to actively pursue the players we want, let the players we don't want go and let the compensation take care of itself.

Err - it wasn't brought in to benefit the clubs. Scully compo pick 4 and 13 vs Ward compo pick 6 - tell it to the Dogs - next minute you'll be hammering on he AFL door to hand back that pick 4 I imagine. The same people whinging about FA compo were whinging about Scully compo. Port seems to have done well - but Chaplin did get 4 years. Hawthorn seems to have done poorly when Young got 3 years. It's no real surprise that Byrnes contract would be similar to Rivers and Moloney. Two year modest deals. The "handout" mentality here is amazing - Free Agency isn't the lazy man's trade bonanza.

Agree they've done very well IMO Out: 24yo KPF - In: 28yo KPF/ruck + 1st rounder Out: 24yo mid - In: 28yo mid + 1st rounder By the time the 28yos move on the 1st rounders will be ready to go.

whinging ho!

mee too but must be at least 3 chars

He didn't say he left because we tanked ...

"old" brand tarnished

Good luck to Riv - hopefully a win-win. Scarlett - big shoes to fill ... Looks like a 3-way with McIntosh going to Geelong for 36 and our compo pick likely to go to North for Pedersen, which they'll on trade to Port for Jacobs http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/department-of-trades/jared-rivers-hamish-mcintosh-join-geelong-in-trade-coup/story-fn69a32t-1226498564307 If true, another very nice piece of work by Tim Harrington.

GWS trying to (allegedly) trade picks now not collect them.

Tim Harrington has been at pains in all the interviews I've heard to point out that we need to look at the overall result of our action in FA, trading and drafting ... In for Out = Result Hogan for ND3 = looks par Draftee for 4 = looks par Viney for 13 = looks value Dawes for 26 = looks par Barry + 58 for 45 = looks par Byrnes for Moloney = looks par It's too easy to take for granted that we got Viney in the 2nd round, secured a very highly rated key forward (THE hardest position to fill) in the mini-draft and attracted a mature KPF and a premiership small forward to our "untouchable club". I reckon we're going very well and we're not done yet.

"We think we've got enough kids," Neeld said.

If we rate him that would be a good idea because the Cats won't use the pick because they don't have the list room to use it and could on trade it as part of the Hamish McIntosh deal.

I'd be OK if the nett is: Out: 20, Moloney, Rivers, Martin In: Dawes, Byrnes, Pedersen, Ray altho many here will squark because we've lost so may champeeeens

How do you know?

Probably because they don't want the clubs to manipulate it.

This Friday if the Clinton Young FA deal is in any way dependent on it - list space or cap space.

Frawley, McDonald, Garland, Watts, Dunn, Sellar

He's definitely not going to Geelong - now that they've signed Caddy and have a bunch of 2nd year rookies to promote or lose - they don't have the list room. They're struggling to find a slot for Jared Rivers.

That's what Hatch, match and Despatch is for ...

It's too easy to criticise the approach the club is taking. Ithink we're doing very well with our list management. Clark last year. The Viney management, the Hogan selection and now pursuing Dawes whose market value is currently low. How about giving us your recipe for success. Trade pick 13 for Pendlebury and pick up Buddy in the PSD?

Agree - we can't and don't have to solve all our problems in one draft - we have Viney and probably a top quality mid with 4. Like it or not we'll probably finish in the bottom 5 next year too and have another top 5 pick. Also there'll be fall-out from GWS and GC over the coming years.

Nic's the Brynne Edelsten of footy - it doesn't surprise me that you're impressed

So if all this is true the nett for us is: Out: 20, 45, Martin In: Dawes, Ray, Pedersen That would leave us with Viney, Hogan, 4, [any FA compo], 65, 83 thru the draft.

How about not posting all the whinging until the footy starts again then?