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Martin is surplus IMO. He's hopeless forward. Jamar is #1 ruck and Spencer is his depth. Clark is forward-ruck and that's why we need to solve the extra key forward problem. There's no way Jamar, Martin, Clark and another key forward are all in the 21. Fitz is ahead of Martin forward.

I'd trade Martin for Caddy.

Rivers is a free agent - we can't trade him - if PA want him and he wants them, he can just go there - gratissimo

define "happy enough" happy enough to do a little jig? happy enough not to top myself? happy enough not to top Sheedy?

"oh gee I was so taken aback when Brock said he left MFC because they tanked that I didn't think to ask him why he went to Carlton" Sheahan's a liar or an idiot - or most likely both.

Brought up to hate Collingwood, learned through my own experience to hate "Essadun"

Hoping Freo replaces Essendon (and the loss to us costs them their finals berth) and yes WC v Freo in week 1 would be outstanding!

Top of the tipping and think GWS has last sewn up even if they win this week ... OK

Fitness and defensive ethic.

It's been suggested that there could be 10-12 changes to our list next year, that could be understating it, particularly with the rookie list to be cut by 2. Not all of this will happen but it's possible (I'm assuming we re-sign Blease, Strauss, Spencer and Bail as reported): Out (11-17): FA (3-5): Green, Rivers, Moloney, Dunn, Bate (a couple may stay) Trade (2): Gysberts, Cook - probably have trade value Delist (4-8): Bartram, Bennell, Petterd, Jurrah, Macdonald, Sellar, Jetta, Davis (maybe half will stay and some may be tradable e.g. Warnock) Rookie delist (2): Couch, Lawrence In (15): Draft (7): 3, 4, 13, 30, 48, 66, 84 - some of these will be trades for more mature players e.g. Boak, Caddy FA (3): Cloke, ???, ??? Trade (2): players for Gysberts and Cook rather than picks - we've already got plenty and Neeld wants more maturity Rookie promotion (2*): Nicholson, Evans (retain Magner, Sheahan, Williams) Rookie draft (3): 3, 21, 39 (Bartram and Bennell might be re-drafted because they're injured) Morton, Sylvia, Davey and Fitzpatrick are all contracted but aren't locks to be at the club next year.

No lose situation - he's increasing his market value.

If the info did come from the club it may have been planned - it's consistent with the 100% Melbourne campaign to raise funds for a massive tilt at FA - show supporters we're serious about this.

Jetta and Cook - both out of contract aren't anywhere on Niall's list. If the info came from the club why would they be missing? Far more likely to have come from a player manager who manages a number of the players and talked to other managers about the situation and filled in some of the gaps.

You're at it again but you left out "bed-wetter, jack-booted toe-cutter and baby-eating cannibal".

I think you'll find that if he's traded they decided it can't.

That's right. IMO what this is all about is GWS getting incentive not to nominate him.

That would be very hard to argue with. Barry would be relying on them going on to successful careers elsewhere.

Cook in Casey 2s at this stage of the year, his development and our injury list. That looks "gorn" to me. Fitzpatrick contracted.

You're over-complicating it, Neeld clearly isn't happy with him. 97% gone.

Agree with this bit.

I wonder ...

He's probably thinking of making space to draft Michael Tuck, Kevin Bartlett and Teddy Whitten to increase the average ...

I don't agree with these assumptions at all ... Chances of Gold Coast nominating Jacky Viney 5% - GC have had a horrible year and can't afford to get too smart and they don't want Viney full stop. Chances of GWS nominating Jack Viney 95% - Sheedy, Silvagni and Allan's modus-operandi is being too smart, vindictive and conniving. And just for good measure ... Chances of MFC taking Viney at pick 3 if he's nominated = 100%