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But Tommo is on $500.000 also I believe.

Wait and see in 2023 !!

Oh and Petty as well !!

Your Mr in Hindsight Kent both may not be injured in 2023 and Bruce JVR and them will star !

KENT Got BBB who helped us win flag in 2021!!! JVR !!!

Daydreaming from some of our Daydreaming Demonlanders about Naughton.

Contrary to others this could be a master stroke. He like Tommo needs time and training to get over the ACL. Upside if he does snd good kick to Tommo with the ups and downs of Bevo. If Bruce doesn't go well up forward could play CHB maybe. Interesting to see if any payment for 2 years of Tommo contact of $500,000. Something out of nothing !!

AFL won't work in state mode!

Giants vs Dogs Prelim 2016 21, ooo odd.

Not necessarily ONE ground. Both say SCG snd Giants Stadium could be used for example in Sydney to utilise crowds factor to the max.?

IQ says hullo !!!

MCW SorryBizkit apologies in your name error. However MCW if you reckon because I replied to BiZkit why didn't you call him out with a chill pill also? Threatened like a balloon ready to burst if the "good money for Club" line was used. Didn't like 2 letters changing on our beloved prime guernsey which looks great all the time! It's Ok to introduce a thread but not to have a reply back if it is virtually making a mountain out of a molehill. After all it's all about sponsorship $$ and we are the winners in 2023 and ongoing years. You must be pleased about extra chunk of sponsorship has been secured for our future. Go Dees !! $$$

Got mine !!!

I am Over that and forgiven Gary and he is not coaching players but acting with MC and Coaches on tactics etc plus selection. He us not there to add interesting comments but for tactics and footy smarts Perfect if you listen but you say it's staying the obvious. Well the other selectors/ Coaches don't always get it right on match day especially.

Ask Biskit he is the one whinging we have got an existing sponsor who has upgraded to our jumper for 2023.

So a fashion guru named "Biskit" is the sole judge and jury on our new sponsorship partner IG ( who prob has paid 1/2 mill or maybe even a $mill for the privilege) for their logo in the prime position in 2023. Let's be honest it's small and is not any different really to the previous prime logo sponsor NB ( New Balance). It doesn't take over the jumper and is much more subtle than the Hertz yellow background. Any one claiming it ruins the jumper or is out of line just wants to create a big hoo ha has not much else to grumble about. Our jumper looks good because of its red and blue heritage and our design and the more sponsorship we can gain far outweighs any pitiful grandstanding.

Read it on the website !!!!

Their Prem window has been open since 2007ie 16 years. Look at their record of Finals games etc. Missed Finals only once in that time in 2015. You have tried to categorise the teams that have won Flags. A dynasty is over a period with different players involved but a .Flag team may be more prevalent at a different time of their window. It doesn't matter how or who are in the team can be a Baby Bombers style team ie very young or an old team like this years Cats. It's the total of years when a Flag window is open that brings a Dynasty together involving all different players in those years. Usually some champions are in the teams glueing the side together. We are starting our Run last year and if we continue to make Finals and win some more Flags over the next 3/6 years it will be our Dynasty.

Read my 2nd para BD. Remember we had 2 less scoring shots than Swans and 2 more than Lions in the Finals. We are right in the mix in the next 5 years and our fitness snd injury plus the little thugs like Maysie and Goody off field just are enough to interfere at times. Msny critics journos are strong in backing us to return to 2021 standard. ECh year is different not always logical or linear Yiu seem to have given up on our list and are upset at the moment s as others trade. We are targeting more closely and no doubt consider done back up from the Casey players if Goody gives them a go!

4 flags in 15 years 2009 and 2011. Not 2 a decade apart .

We can't get 15 from GWS unless we package Bedford and say a future 2nd rounder to them in 2023 It looks like 44 !! And a fourth or third rounder back.

Like your positivity Fr-ap but you have made a few assumptions more on the Cats than us in each position. I believe it could be both Dees and Cats separate from the rest in 2023 providing we regain our list in good health and we integrate stronger form selection policies and our role players return to 2021 standards, I also think we have enough depth snd Grundy and one top talent from the draft plus our 2022 Casey Demons boost our depth for 2023. Your way off pace IMO thinking Csts are at the end of their run and their 3 recruits in this trade are all young snd IMO better prepared for AFL than most of JVR Taj Laurie AMW Howes and McPhee are in their career timelines. Interesting you say they won't develop to be a dynasty. Actually they are A DYNASTY and have been for 15 years!! There is improvement in both Clubs lists and I am bullish we can return to 2021 standard or more but Cats are in a very confident period and age won't debar them in 2023 unless they are injured. Its going yo be fascinating watching each Club in2023.

The additional 2nd rounder was mooted if the 13 was the best offer from the 2022 list snd a future 1st rounder was included in the trade from 2023.

Agree LN as long as he is happy which he seems from the WC video!

Thanks LN Surprised Jayden didn't get a greater no of disposals in 2021/22 than in2019 considering he played forward mostly in 19 and as a defender albeit lockdown the last 2 years ie 46 games. However that backs up the consistent ratio of disposals 12 snd 11.85 and 2.7 clangers also in both. Thought his role in defence was his most consistent over his career also for the team. I think he read the situation (probably explained to him at his exit 2022 interview ) snd has opted for an AFL career to be extended and risk not playing in a Flag winning team at the Dees. Hope he has many good days on Optus Stadium which suits him but just not against us !!