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Horses fir courses If Hird van come back so can Gary is Ben Matthews or Mc Pherson still around? if not apologies!

Wasn't Troy Chaplain our forward Coach last season and before in 2017? Last year our forward entries with Hoges we're rush rush rush and chaotic no system, and now it's no better! Rawlings May be better but deserves his role at Casey and Plapp is midfield I think. Need a changeover like Tigers or Saints as most of Roosy's staff are still safely in trust (too safely me thinks). I have said it before and again I believe Gary Lyon (yes ha helped give us Neeld and Bails) should be on board for match day in the box and perhaps greater. Has the sharpest brain in footy these days snd knows the tricks and ways to utilise the players best attributes.

Defence cost us in First Quarter not helped by lack of pressure from midland forwards. I think Oscar played his worst game last night and Petty (not Kelty) deserve the opportunity to claim that position till the injured return and beyond if he shows his true ability. FWIW thought Hibbo returned to some form and Nev got back on track last night. It's also so one dimensional to just punch someone must mark the ball and get it moving to create tun and carry to out forwards.

No doubt we have missed Lewy not sure about last night making a difference due to the pace of McD TW and others but a Swans and Saints return would be ideal in his role of "General down back". If as I suspect Petty (rather than Keltie) should come in vs Swans then his experience would be irreplaceable. Jonesy may fill the breach but of course is no faster!

Absolutely Coach killer and it prob says where his confidence is at. Dees fans want him to be a Dusty De Goey and Cripps all in one Reckon he is a bit off pace this year but most of his better work is fine in heavy traffic and half the posts here don't even see his good work. Time to take pressure off him let him have a go at half back for a quarter and maybe change him on ball or forward at some stage. Kicking really a t set shots is unreliable at best and needs work! We are not learning from our past games and are being out coached and out smarted. Badly need pace on our forward half. Reckon like Vines it was better in some ways this week but we were really much more badly out coached on Sat night than Round 1 TV showing Goody looked as though he was bereft if ideas and helpless. We need some PlanB or/and Plan C. Somrhow Have d good feeling about Frid Znight and think will still get 60,000 plus.

Why OD Both are not in the groove but 5 goals from them at the Cattery might get us over the line ! Hsve Faith OD (not blind) Dees on the improveand can't wait at the Cattery for our improvement.

Respect your opinion DS but the 5 goals are on the board and neither Oscar or Frosty succeeded and he ran solo IMO and hebce the result not fir the first time s us .

We always fail to counter Wesfhoff sour 3rd tall (or first or second talls can't either Ususlly we go in with no one minding him and hence Saturday's result again !!

But he's true isn't he? bloody oath he's right it also was the underdone crew on the ball and elsewhere

How is Garlett 4 more weeks ? wad 2/3 about a week ago?

Kingy says we have all bases covered !!! Maybe Base 1and 2 but not 3 and 4!

How about BB finals 6 times in a row and 2 Flags ? 70,000 then ?

Didn't come over much on TV. I thought our support since Roosy has come had gone up many decibels. Many might have been out of breath getting there because of the trains.! Lets get 70,000 plus on Friday week and be rowdy because the Bomber fans will be!

They did not have 15 operations like us obviously!!

Yes it could well be for 2020 more than 2019 but I like the changes . Cant see why Lever is not intercepting off half back but suppose he plays in between the lines. Worthwhile policy to try.

Look st the figures after our losses to Hawks Tigers last year people still sign on so 50,000 plus is not a pipe dream.

BB Perty did not say this year that 70,000 but maybe upwards of 50,000 and even 60,000 may be possible in 2019. It is a target for the future and every time people point out the 70,000 is not realistic it is not helpful. All Clubs need visionaries and Perty has much more experience than us, think that's also why we actually chose him as our CEO. Stynesy was 40,000 and we've last 2 years smashed that and I believe 55,000 is achievable if we win a no of games early in the season. I realise you only posted GIF (which I hate all of them) but let's be positive and support the Board their aims for the Club to achieve greatness and join the big Victorian Club cartel.

Remember we played without both in early rounds last season This us Mark 2 horror show with possibly more dire consequences long term! Hopefully Club gets it right for both Jack and Tom !

Exactly my point in posts on the team for Round 2. i had no doubt in 2017 that Jack then said I am playing and no one had the b...s to say NO. Result he got another foot injury which has impacted him until last season and only a super effort saw him fit for the Finals. But now it's other leg injuries and to play on in a prac match for fitness and nominate seriously fir Sat as fit does not look even remotely sensible. Medicos and Coaches don't ruin Jack he is tough but he can and will end his AFL career if we go soft and sentimental. He is our Capt to lose but I would like to see him later in the year and from 2020 And take our chances of a Flag or Finals in the meantime. Someonr will step up and assist it usually happens.

Surely WB it's easier to drop Vines as he is a co Captain only with Nathan still in team. sitting on the bench for a long period helps no one really and no conditioning on ground or form is gained and if it's injury the team is one down for extended period. Reckon it's a team thing snd we have had Jack missing over last 2 years esp. and win without him. Harmes should Have tagged Rockliff who was in top form dishing out to faster runners etc. Its What is best overall fir team and Goody etc. need to take the hard decision to get Jack back in full fitness and firing. This surely isn't going to be the hardest decision in 4 years if Goody stays the distance. Make it and move on or compromise will/may muddy waters now and in the future.0

Sorry fitness Gurus and Coach should make the tough decision It can be made if there is a will to do it !0

Agree with RJay - no real enthusiasm for Tom (Sparrow) when first goal kicked. Refer Saints with Parker Freo with Schulz. Team was flat definitely not up and about and when momentum shifted no one other than Salem really stood up (peghaps Melky). Players did look almost disinterested and not enjoying their day. It was laboured and many couldn't/didn't chase. Disturbingly not one player went and helped Maxy (Tommy where were you, anyone?) and no fight in the last quarter was disappointing. Maybe some were cooked but only 8 points. Where was all that love fir Goody gone between mid week on his well deserved extension and Saturday in the heat? No Leadership glaringly obvious and no score at all in 4th quarter as a result. Something with the players was not quite right ( other than form) they were not happ to be there and it may have been general fitness from operations but can't put my finger in it. Crowd (from TV in Qld) was not really in game also and with nearly 40,000 which was good considering the trains rain and heat made made for a lack lustre start to our season of hope and glory and Goody's extension. Definitely our brand ( PJ and Perty) not on show and definitely no "esprit des Corps" evident. Looking for a much better and much more competitive performance at Cattery which I am returning to for first time in nearly 30 years! Go Dees

Sorry Chook pleas don't include me or are you saying in the Club! Kenty was predominantly unfit injured and low possession player who looked spectacular in about 3 occasions during a match. Yesterday fir Saints a speccy goal but no other contributions of any substance. Tackled well once or twice occasionally and got caught on left foot because he can't kick right. Think he left at right time andgood luck to him at Saints for more money.

ANB's cameo was a typical insight. Running for a while when we were alive then took 2 marks and cruelled both shots either side of the goals, That is the reason he is not a long term proposition even though he allegedly tackles and maintains pressure. He is not an elite converter in big games but rather a finisher vs lower sides and his kicking has no particular style or consistent trajectory to guarantee accuracy. We May be forced due to injury to play ANB fir a while but the moment Jeffy or Chandler or Bedford show their hand and earn promotion let's see the in the team. That's of course if ANB doesn't prove me wrong

Read the posts below on our operations during the off season which was not the case at Pies Eagles Crows or Swans or Tigers ! Thats the story or large reason for the gassed condition plus heat did not help.