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Tough on Balmey that's 25 years ago and in his early coaching stint. Nearly every one else was either in short Panse or duffle costs at least. At least there are some additions to coaching to be finalised so who knows what May transpire. Changes to Assistants was identified by all and sundry and that's taking place. That is a good start, We are very quick to half glass empty people on this site and often expect a magician to evolve out if a rabbit even if it his first gig. Much responsibility has to be allocated to some players to shape up or ship out and about Half a dozen are in that category that Mahoney seems to be giving a ninth live following some real glimpses, disappointing cameos of inconsistency and real average team roles not being performed or identified to in the game plan which although an improvement is still only when we play well and seem to abandon the moment a modicum if pressure is applied from the opposition. All are under severe pressure in 2021and as we/ I will keep exampling the Cats in 2007 and Tigers a decade later in 2017 displayed there true worth with hassled and pressured coaches so what are we to do In a similar situation With a supposedly inferior list. A 1998 or 2018 response or even better? We await with bated breath fir trade and list movements and the new FD and Coaching appointments to move Mountains in Goody's game plan/s. FGS Burgo no injuries again like this year!

And at a time that at least Pies North and a couple of other lists are in disarray and Fire sales are Bigger than Covid figures in all States. if we lose Pruess and Tommy Mac to GWS and Pies at least a medium/high 3rd rounder for each should get a Phillips Polec or Narkle across the line with a 4th rounder Or future 4 going back!

And West Coast?

What do you mean push him out? Put from goal or out of the team ? or out of the Forward line ? Please don't compare with Melk and is ahead of any of our forwards. Wll straighten up and wrk on his game up become elite .

Didn't you see his last 2 games vs GWS and Bombers where Bailey took care of Haynes and Ridley and kicked 5 goals and missed about 4 gimmes still. his tackling needs more body strength and Bayley has indicated on the website he is getting ready for much more improvement to take his game to a new level in marking and defending and goal accuracy. Talk of him missing is not only premature as our leading goal kicker But disrespectful to his wholehearted efforts in his first 3 years.

Tomlinson IMO is a better interchange than Hore as he is much more versatile. Like the team but Lockhart IMO needs to be given an opportunity to mind the oppositions smalls. We always get burned by the midgets who are too quick!

Didn't Plapp have the mids And the forwards recently ? Since 2018? Agree he seemed fine at Casey as Numero 1, but for the lines not so good I reckon.

You have not done your Maths ITB. We are now better than Bombers and Hawks!!! I used to go season by season like that but it's too unpredictable. You win games and the ladder spot takes care of itself. You don't think there is a mountain full of improvement in our list of Young players from Jacko Kossie Riv Lockhart ? Also a sustainable game plan plus our listers from about 15 to 30 need a reality check. Oh and Brown Phillips and msybe Narkle??

Sorry George then why is there a thought that we may Conjure up pick 9 out of Preuss and our second rounder no23? I thought 23 would be fir Brownie for Norrh!

Because Templeton was banged up and about32 when we lured him. Brownie is only 27/28 and Burgo has tested him I believe for fitness and all the medics are satisfied he has potentially4/5 years ahead.

And I don't remember Carlton or Saints playing in A Prelim Final or winning more games than lost for 3 out of 4 last seasons.

I took targets ( wrongly) think targets were forwards so apologies.

50/90 is not good odds IMO Care to elaborate Ad.

Nudge who are the previous 2 main targets Preuss and Mitch Brown????

The above is a reply to Better Days AheadS comments on Tom.

Best for all parties - remarkable really is it mainly good for which parties ? The new team has a possibly underperforming Slowish big KPPlayer Tom does not really want to leave I imagine but opportunity is the sole reason And we want to get rid of his Salary in our Cap and have to gently guide him out of the Club he has been such a loyal servant and great Clubman who will be missed. Seems like most reasons are not BEST but need to happen to try and break a deadlock. I secretly hope Tom stays ( or isn't picked up) reduces weight and gets back to 2018 form in the forward line Or wherever. That would be the best fir all parties Tom and MFC. Oh I suppose Oscar is in much the same position but the may be a genuine Best for all Parties EXCEPT fir the Oscar haters who may in his absence lord their poisoned chalices at Charlie or Smith or even ANB.

Even bigger worry that Petty and Lockhart and Harmes and Spargo are not there Hore is not flexible snd Salem is no good in a back pocket Will do mine tonight or tomorrow .

May as well get Stepho and add Jesse to the forward mix and they could have a two for the price if one hooker Hub deal If we are Covid again in 2021!!

Biggest skill is disposal / team play ie something happens ie a score (GOAL) when Charlie passes the ball or handpass Most Demonlanders are besotted with stars if players of 25 and20 possessions. No regard fir the skill of disposal or team play. About time Jayden Hunts 4 goals Few possessions Charlie's games vs Pies and Giants of 2 and 3 goals and 12 possessions Are held as match winning contributions. Ftitta will start kicking 2,3and 4 more regularly I am certain from 12/15 disposals and will be lauded. It is a team game and that's how we will win a flag with 12 out if the 22 contributing a role in the overall Picture.

Amazing yes those floating kicks all floated through fir a GOAL Bingo! And in the centre of the goal too and The others either were goalsquare goals or pinpoint passes to leading forwards. My you are hard to please admittedly gut running didn't feature but his did Tom get from the wing to goal square ? Running I presume and as good as Ed Langdon is he Doesn't do that ( except miss from 15 m out in Cairns) no Tom will do but Narkle would also be a good get and Jordan Clark a great pick.

YW the man short in our defence this year was NOT Marty Hore. It was a genuine third tall ( Oscar couldn't do the job) and Smith was and Tomlinson also entrusted in the latter games of 2020. Smith on Cameron ( 2020 version remember ) was heartening and became a team player and now had 2 years and Tommo also much maligned did a solid blocking role in lieu of our wing poddies he is not suitable for. He's an honest footballer but versatile also is Tommo and defence attack or ruck and an occasional period on the wing is very handy on a team that Lacks changeability. The ideal third defender ( or third tall) is Petty but we need him in attack far more I believe. Yes Marty has his intercept skills but IMO he is not quick enough fir smalls and is not tall or robust ( strong) enough to mind the third tall forwards. He is the only Replacement for Jake as an interceptor but msybe could become more expansive and take the game on like he did with that memorable Assist winning effort Goal vs Suns in 2019! Completely agree with you re Charlie Who might just be Oscars replacement as Whipping boy No 1 if he doesn't deliver consistently.

Difference Mullet fir all Charlie's flaws ( and he ironed out a couple this year) he is a SMART footballer who only needs a dozen disposals to have an influence on a game. TB fair Hunt is like that but does not fit in team wise ( he plays more individual style footy) although we must keep him fir his skills TOO. Both would play even better if we can improve our connection and solve a game plan dilemma that suits us on both good and bad days.

ADD PETTY also !!!

PF wrong on Hibberd his year was a great comeback from 2019 Was fitter snd back to his best kicking and pace again Deserves this year no doubt. Charlies best vs Pies and Giants is superior than any other HF flanker this season (Other than Kossie) and he looked far more likely to cause trouble when he gas the ball than ANB and Hannan. He has a smart footy brain also. Also lay off Jack I also tjink he plays like a rugby player but the whole midfield still have to rationalise their roles and Yze May be the saviour. When Jack is good he is irreplaceable and we generally win ( WC in Round 1 an exception). Tom is at this stage A debit but all not lost with 2 years and/or trade options we must explore.

Yes you must have missed the Oies and Giants games When he kicked goals and was busy and provided pressure. I agree he needs to contribute more consistently but he has more if a mans body now than a boys and ole Yu if room fir improvement, Also Charlie has a very good footy brain and when he gets his hands on the ball usually something happens. Marty IMO is depth and has some attributes But think the problem is gd is an interceptor next ehomarks well and that means he is only an understudy fir Jake. He is not nimble enough fir smalls and not quite strong and big enough fir the talls. Lockhart must be next Unless they still aim fir him to be a rookie.!!