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Smith snd Board must have kept any fighting quiet Macca as the 1966 sacking was over Smithy criticising an umpire (Ron Brophy I think) one day and Cttee didn't see eye to eye. Not sure there wasn't civil action taken by the Ump and Smithy wanted Club ie Board support. Hardly a succession of fights from 1952 to 1964/5 Macca unless you know of any others ?? Board must have done some things right as 6 flags in 12/13 years ain't bad!!!

Reckon if we wait 12 months a couple of reasonable HF smaller types may be delisted by Ssints in 2031 end of season. thinking Billing's Lonie a chance oh and Kent !!! Please NO.

Basically Viney is a Vic. Todd came here in 1986 and played 12 years or so snd only went back I reckon fir coaching in SA fir 5 years before he returned to Hawks I think. Then came back to us. Basically Jack has lived 20 out of 25 years in Vic not SA.And would have been born in Vic in 1994 !

That's ridiculous HFF only Richmond played there with us from 1966 on Then in about early 80's aSunday game and later on Friday night started with North mainly. In middle 90's Bombers Pies Hawks all started sharing then I think Telstra Dome about 2000 started and some Clubs got shared home grounds with Dogs Roos Saints and Dons and Blues. So you are only about 30 years out HFF In our real share with other teams except for Tigers which doesn't cover any real loss then in a 12 team comp ie the old AFL.

30 years ago in 1991 Great Southern Stand.

Oscar has ever been a turnover merchant like Tom was in defence. Oscar lacks confidence strength and nimbleness to compete one on one. Thsts why he looks poor as he is mostly in the last line vs another player. Personally I would keep Tom snd hope He thins down snd Recovers fitness and can play Ruck forward or Back. Oscar At best a Rookie fir one year emergency depth if we don't get a trade.

Tracy 14 you said no Hunt or Hannan on 14/10. then said Vanders Smith Fritsch Melky could all play HForward role I am saying Fritsch 's talent is far better than Smiths and the rest are in decline. Plus retain Hunt who can kick multiple goals from HF and I think will improve in 2021.

Sorry I typed Hire not Hore in the final two sentences. However My take on Hire is he is not quick or nimble fir smalls and too light fir most talls that's why he is Levers interceptor clone mainly!

No AF Fritta must be chiefly a forward which is our Achilles heel.

Polly and Kent yes Locky is the small replacement IMO and Rivers our major running half back Or Salem snd Hibbo can do that also. ( I prefer Salem on wing or up forward to maximise his disposal and elite kicking skills. Maybe Hunt or Smith are also able to be used for run and carry when given an opportunity Down back. Our defence still can be better but May Lever Tomlinson and Petty ( prefer up forward ) even Mitch Brown if retained can Play the big role. Hire IMO is a Lever clone fir the intercepting duties!

Why not ? That's what the coaches are Paid for, to work out the positions and styles of games fir each player at your disposal. Jack needs to Cease trying to be a bulldozer all the time where he hold onto the call and gets caught holding. He also needs to look at kicking or handball ing on his right side and making his first option to move the hall to our outside runners. Jack should be able to play up forward on the ball and/or roam on the FP or HFFlank Putting pressure on the defenders with his strong tackling. Gus is good in close and also On the outside and is a good disposer when he can balance and launch a good left or right foot pass. He is not great at two way running ie defending from defence However letssee this year if New Coach Yze can influence our mids games and versitility.

What role Travy 14 ? HFF? or HBF ? rather a difference in skill and output between Fritsch and Smith at Zhang forward. Also Harmes Vanders and Melkshske in 2020. All are about the same for form in decline. Keep Hunty Who can kick Multiple goals and get an early/ mid 3 Rd rounder fir Mitch.

Vale Blair Campbell Special sympathies to his family and friends .

Sorry Pino your not fit to decide our next big recruit.!! Need better personnel at our Club!!!

Worst fire sale of list cloggers ever!! Would rather give our guys a chance than them! Why would you need a Marley Williams when we already have Lovkhart?

WDEE There is more upside and pace and run With Lockhart Who cares that he didn't get a run in the last few games that's Goody and his selection. Smithy did ok I thought so us improving but BP is too deep for Salem and I reckon the forward line or wing are better spots to Make use of his excellent disposal. Not all the options Are interchangeable and we need a Jetta replacement that's why I like Lockhart and for eg Hore is hard to place and is really a Lever replacement as an interceptor. Hibbo is back this year Was a good one and form and fitness Fine. Riv again I feel is a better HB flanker than a BP. We May have a good selection of mediums but need Petty or if Tom Mac finds form if he isn't poached. I also like Tommo as a third tall and he also improved thus season with specific roles on opp like Cameron. Reckon after Pruess and Hannan go we may have a trade pick we can sneak a Stepho or Polec and maybe get further near a first round draft pick fir a classy runner with good disposal to help our mids and forwards .

Seems like we had Mitch for about 4 years fir ONE BIG GLORIOUS goal that none of us will ever forget. Good luck with the Dogs Mitch and thanks fir the memory.

Move on Dr and Dee3031 we are still living on his marvellous Geelong Semi sealing goal in 2018. Mitch had all season to hit form and didn't succeed and I will Not forgive him fir the last pass to Fritsch in the last quarter at Metricon vs Lions instead of passing to Jack Viney 30 m out on his own OR having a shot himself.!!!

DJ from your and Kents post you are talking salary as a given etc (your figures not MFC) and how the message is being conveyed to Tomand Mamager i am suggesting you're post is far More pointed above what is the real position. Tom is doing what any player would but no luck as yet with any leads. No it's any ones spot from Smith and Tommo But I don't think he will replace Petty as Harrison will play firward or be the CHB from Round1.

W'DEE Take Salem from BP and place in lieu of Melksham at HFF and place Lockhart in the BP to mind the oppos best small!

From memory HF flank and jnrmac Pies dropped back each year when Bucks took over so a status quo is not surprising in membership. While a CEO has Some responsibility for team performance the Head of FD is responsible to him it is too easy to blame Pert for the whole Situation Pert if I recall was at Cwood in 2010 and 2011 when Pies won flag and were runners up. (Perty would be a hero If he could do this within the next 3 years). The side by side campaign would surely be a marketing decision approved by Board or Pert. And submitted by the Marketing Manager, As his Role. It's has been a constant from many D/L Anders that if they didn't want Pert or agree with his appointment to blame every thing on Pert. The reality Perty isn't in the Coaching box when Simon refuses To move players or makes multiple Team changes akin to deck chairs on the Titanic. The more realistic Situation is that nearly all sections of the Club are performing OK with Financial surprisingly us being stable and not needing AFL support. Membership, football Dept and on field Performance definitely need 20/25% Lift fir us to be a serious contender for the flag. That is the challenge for 2021 And beyond with the changes and recruiting currently being undertaken as the first crucial steps.

Don't think either of Kent or DJ are in a factual state of what's gone on. From the Clubs Info released its more like We have a spot but he is facing a lot less Ists opportunity and is free to Look elsewhere for opportunities. At this stage that's what IMO is the status but any scenarios could be possible as of now.

You vastly underrate his feats at Collingwood Re membership and finance .There is no way Pert would have survived over a decade at Pies if he was not efficient snd performing at a good level. It is only a perception that you have and his record foes to belie those thoughts.

Yes it would be exciting if Bakes could develop into a class winger with his skills Pace and potential. Fitness is a key . Let's hope we develop Oscar but also go after Phillips or Polec.

Stefan could also go back into defence maybe as an extra key position defender at CHB.