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Well you get the result you deserve if you don’t take a chance . We know that in life and the excuses drummed up for not taking a chance on the Sub are almost as if he was there in the 0.10 % to be used. Boy oh boy I wonder what the reaction would have been if Brodie Grundy had been the Sub and not used????

Complete lack of imagination from the FD Cttee and Coaching staff in the Semi no matter what those plans were planned.

All the Simon moves you are quoting are pre planned during off seasons. planned and trained for months Yes but the moves I are quoting are DURING THE GAME where it’s well noted industry wise he is not really flexible. Ie Not a great Match Day Coach. Two different qualities altogether. Sheedy for example had both qualities covered, You can only comment on some moves after a game all you “in hindsight” experts that are discounting these options. When are you able during a game? I don’t text publicly during a game except a text to family or a Melb mate. But a Coach’s job is to be vigilant and flexible. Let’s see with some of our new players even greater flexibility should be apparent on MATCH DAY now especially on the forward line. G o Dees in 2024.

Completely different circs comparing with 2021GF. Another Sub disgrace. Simon again guilty. JJ deflated and embarrassed. You don’t seem to realise the desperately poor decision and handling of the Sub. Again in the Final. Yet it’s smart play if Max breaks down ? It’s even smarter play to use your Sub when one of your players isn’t contributing!! It’s also called a tactical Sub for use as Carlin did theirs. End of story Macca . Poor planning by our Coach and Match Committee. A wasted player who was not used. .

All a load of conjecture and far too much if this and if that. Schache was the SUB and as is usual should be selected to come on the ground who ever comes off. IF NOT he should not be selected as the Sub in the first place. End of story. Please Don’t try and come up with other illogical conclusions as it doesn’t work that way.

Possibly it’s not like her but she said she was clotheslining and queried whether hi is Goodenough as he continually gets criticised. She hardly defended him in IMO as she was completely over the discussion of the Sub.

Thanks rjay. The info on not using the Sub ( Schache ) is not I believe made up. It’s been floated in circles widely and frankly it’s believable knowing how stubborn Simon has been on making moves. If i you agree thst you would have changed Tommy then things are done for a reason to try and win. I have played sport at Club level and captained cricket teams. Making bowling changes is a top priority and it’s just the same as this. No change attempted you never know but you inside I know it’s got to be done in an attempt to change things up and make life more difficult to the opposition. Growing up as a parent if your child did not like something the best to one yo do was look at making a change u to I improve matters. That's all this is a perfectly easy move to help the team and look at it as a great opportunity to improve matters on the forward line. As for WCW being sick of this topic clearly she doesn’t understand sport ( footy in this case) and surprisingly rude enough to say she is sick of the matter and then denigrate Josh Schache as a player is a very disappointing event. In addition she does not realise her posts on many occasions on some topics are extremely long and boring lecturing others as she believes she has divine right to. This has to be said on this occasion. As you know WCW no one makes you read other people’s posts if you don’t want to. This is my last post on this matter but I have a feeling it may not be the last by a D/Ler. Some of us always like the last word!!! Go Dees in 2024.

Are you not able to read my opinion ? I have twice stated that change of The Sub on could change the dynamics.? That’s what happens when changes are made in sport. You can’t say that Josh Schache may not have taken 2/3 marks and kicked goals to win it for us. As to justifying his opinion he has not really given any in-depth analysis of his 11/12 reasons. Stating is not in depth at times and you seem satisfied but he hasn’t started 11/12 points anyway. i am stating along with poor forward kicking and connection, goal inaccuracy plus Gawny touching Clarry’s goal shot and also goal umpire decisions plus the Sub not being used are reasons why we did not win. And Goody had much to do with the decision about the Sub plus his alleged failure to activate the change of Tmac off and Schache on. Happy now I have for the third time repeated myself. TN does not elaborate like you say. You are just easily accepting his post and have not even given any of your views. No doubt you will just say the same few options that TN has listed. Nothing will make me change my mind only reinforce my opinion. Cheers and Go Dees.

Are you sure that any of TN’s decisions aren’t a matter of opinion as well? I am not going to go through his ( 11 or 12) doesn’t list these either !!

We’re already sending Harry P forward. He will with the new recruits plus the trade of McAdam and Billing’s seems to me to offer much more class and options plus our forwards being fit would also be a great filip. Have no doubts our forward line will be a major reason we improve our team.

To say it’s the 11th or 12 th reason and to say didn’t matter as much as any other is completely underestimating that decision. You May say that but you a have either got half a dozen other minute reasons any which could be from 6 th onwards. The non use of a Sub is a crucial and dumb decision in most games ie soccer nrl and obviously AFL. Then you double up and say because the Senior Coach made the decision it’s almost irrelevant. He was the crucial decision maker and failed miserably in leadership and daring/positive action. Refer back to the 2023 last quarter and Harry Petty was switched forward with about 10 mins to go. If that move had been Made at 3/4 time by Simon I have a feeling we wouldn’t have lost that game. Similar situations and in sport some have the knack and others can’t find the fortitude to press buttons at the right time. Schache was let down by the Coach and if as is alleged ( you are ignoring the reason conveniently). This has been a common thread regarding this game and yes it sounds very hard to believe but I feel there is a very strong element of truth regrettably about this “ non decision” to use the Sub. I can think of about 5 other reasons we lost that game but to say this Sub decision was not a crucial one is ignoring the games natural flow and sports amazing ability to thrill us any time we close our eyes or use our given faculties.

TN you have found 5 other reasons for us losing both Finals and tried to underwhelming ignore the Schache sub fiasco in the middle of your post. Of course there are more reasons than ONE but to say the Subs non use was not a reason we lost is not even sensible. You have made some very good posts recently but this one is a part miss due to the lack of admission of the Coaches decision on the Sub.

Kossie is suspended for 0 and 1 Rounds in 2024 coming up.

Well why use that reason to negate the other poster’s opinion. In fact Goody is alleged to have deliberately not used Schache in the Semi because he was outvoted by the other MC members in naming him as Sub. . Not great work by our Coach and Footy Department together.

Is that why The AFL have to pour millions into the GC/GWS coffers? Crowds do matter when you talking about 10,000 each week at home and away venues involving these 2 Clubs. Their bottom lines would be reasonable and AFL not have to prop them up after a decade.

Seriously that was a giant error and we will never know the result. I am surprised you are defending Goody when clearly one of the biggest errors in his coaching in the Fibsls was made in not using Schache from halfway into the third quarter. It’s like playing Green or Marsh and not bowling them.

Salem has trained well enough and while I like Disco in you can’t deny Tommo hasn’t been one of our top 5/10 trainers. Reckon both them in 23 and Salo as well with Woe and Chandler out of 23. They don’t deserve not to play but it’s very competitive. Really Sparrow has had a poor but managed pre season and he won’t be left out as a mid vs other half forwards. We are in a transitional phase and our youth is getting ready for the big stage along with our recruits. Hard work by all. Clarry and Petty to add the class at later dates.

14 out of 18/19 games is a Bazball winning total. We got out of jail in Fourth Test and cheated another Lords result 2 series in row. I was at both.

The 2023 figures are helpful. What they tell us is that Maxie only had a so so year in 2023. He was not in the top 5 of most of the figures. He didn’t make the AA team and it caused some dysfunction with Brodie playing at the same time. In 2024 he is set up with backing from JVR Schache and Fullarton when he is fit. Oh and any other trainee ruck that surprises in form.

Yes 2019 draft were but Bowser debut was Round 20 vs GC and played the last 7 games inc. 3 Finals in 2021 in that magical run we will never forget.

That’s why he stood out in the film highlights weeks in advance as to his style of game and our needs. Our Guru JT didn’t muck around with Curtin ( who I still would have loved) but Caleb (The Duke) Windsor looks just fine from the recent reports. So pleased with the overall reports from yesterday by all the track representatives on his form. He is coming along fine. Which wing Warne Stand or MCC Members ? And Lingers he will make a comeback to his best. He is too good and proud not to.

And his goals his hand passes his kicks his shepherds his captaincy his care for the Club and all players Dont think we’ll miss his 5 hit outs!!!!

That may only be 2025 actually I apologise.

He is contracted till end of 2026 I believe. Would be Adelaide/ Petty all over again so I think we will look at JVR late in the year and extend again hopefully if all going well.