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No I don’t think so we are in need of another half forward who can kick 30 goals plus per season. Plus Spargo should return this year and I suppose we can always hope with McAdam.

There is not much in ability between Bedford and Chandler but Bedford is a more standard type half forward and has wider skills and can tag. Chandler is stronger and tackles and competes harder but is not as skilful as Toby. Spargo is better than either but Kossie is easily the best but if more time is put in with him he could go to another level I believe.

Well at least give him a try in the AFL first before we cast him aside.

Rebuilding on a 33yo who may play a game or two but will coach our Verrall and ? Instead. No thanks hi for the Boyd ruck star from Norwood who can play up forward also. Go back to a Jacko/ Gawn style arrangement and both are happy.

Well it makes sense as it is not a good look and virtually bordering on conflict of interest given the circumstances.

While your listed observations have some limited amount of merit I don’t believe we are about to move Clarry on and make 2/3 $ mill loss on his contract. That would be tiling the members. Oh and if GFC are interested in Clarry they know their $$ or attitude to obtaining him and are talking to him to see what salary he might be willing to accept especially as they will have to juggle him and Bailey Smith possibly in the trade period coming up. It doesn’t mean we are going to fire sale Clarry out as you suggest because it looks too tough to keep him or negotiate a fair deal with the Cats who are notoriously light payers to even elite recruits.

How do you conclude that ?? What indications are there for that assumption?

While you are correct in identifying our help so far let’s not start a bake on Clarry like some did with Trac. Both are with Max JV Maysie and Lever our greatest players generational in fact that have and will be recognised as the champs of this era ( however it remains or not) who bought to us many hours of enjoyment and great footy. They put the fear of losing into the opposition and still will hopefully head our 2025 challenge for a season that no one yet can really predict what may happen. If we were to lose Clarry then play hardball and extract some players ie SDK plus a runner/ half forward goal kicker to help our list or 2 top draft picks as adequate compensation they did for Jeremy Cameron.

It means we need some points doesn’t it? Last year under this system courtesy of the Carlton Camporale Bros.

Each Club is having a go reminding of an opinion already expressed and refuted. Just in time for trading coming up!! Boring and tiresome.

No we go after the player who wants to come to us and is best suited to our needs. That's Derksen.

Accor Stadium ( ex Olympic Ceremony and Athletic track )takes 73,000 each State Origin game.

For G and c sake please stop the bashing of Fritta. All Clubs have players with differing skills and tackling is not Bails top skill. But he has 15 other skills that enable him to kick match winning goals like vs the Cats that only Kossie ang Trac exhibit. Also how many of our present players could kick 4,5, or 6 in a Grainy? Just realise that Bailey has won far more games for Melb than lost so just stop the [censored] and back him in. He can go next level as Kossie if both put in a concerted effort to improve but it’s got to be a Club or personal desire to go from 40 to 60 goals or 35 to 50 each season. Let’s hope both can do it.

I don’t really mind who we target but they must bring in new ideas get a different game plan going and refresh our group of champs role players and promising youngsters plus 5/6 new trades and draftees. Please don’t apply if you don’t want to fight for the above. You will be a Tim Watson / Mal Blight / ex coach recently before Rossy with the Saints if you are old school and defensive. New Breed need only apply on Social Media please!!

Sorry Meggs but we only scored ONE goal and it was before quarter time! This recent disaster of a level of players and injuries has shown how quickly under the current AFLW trade rules a team can be decimated in a last H and.A game plus 2 Finals plus say 3/4 more H and A nearly twelve months later. Ftom having. Champion team this time last season we are now at the bottom with all credibility spirit I imagine and 8 great seasons of cereal strength have withered in record time. Its nothing like the rebuild on the run from 3/4 years ago as it was say only 3/5 players and not absolute stars. One thing that has mitigated against us is that the recruiting of players now is for taller bigger and just as mobile but physically stronger recruits. Hawthorn are a great example. I suspect Essendon Sydney Richmond Geelong WC and even the Saints have followed this trend. I believe we “pinched” a flag with a smallish no of talls but a heap of medium height good running and skilful players and were the most competitive onballers and flankers in the Competition. But no longer is that the prototype Flag team as the evolution has started with girls with height and real skills who are too good for medium role players. Also we have not attracted any seemingly tattling player/s yet with our recent recruiting. Needless to say our talls are injured but are not you anyway so our rebuild has been hastened. It will take some trading and recruiting to solve our problem asap. I am not sure that Mick after 9 stellar and amazing seasons is the bloke to lead this renaissance and a new breed is required from 2026 on. ( Possibly the same is needed for the AFL also but that is a slightly different story but similar in some ways). Interested in the D/Lers that go or are rusted on with my take. BTW the same has happened to the Pies after 3/4 seasons of making Finals but not really joining the Top 3 of Brisbane Adelaide and us with North now the best Vic team but the challengers are coming thick and fast. Even yesterday watching North vs Tigers in the wet in Tassie I couldn’t help but feel that other than experience and the rain the Tigers are a different build and won’t be long before this takes effect. North’s champs are also good but not physical brutes but always so competitive even with their silly skills. But time is ticking with the tier 2 mids who are facing physical and skill challenges each week. Heaven help GWS and others if we/ they don’t recruit the new prototypes for the future. I know this all sounds very simplistic but I believe it’s a need for a cultural and game style change along with new recruits to renew our team back to the top. Either to beat them we need to join them and asap.

Not Logan Mac needs a bigger unit No 1 forward ahead of him so he gets a No 2 or 3 defender.

With Stafford gone and Mini also it’s great that 2 new assistants are needed. Hope we get some be breed who are more adventitious and can take on Goody who isn’t as safe as he was with Kate as Pres. Need aggression like Lions and players can play that way if given a licence viz 2018.

Agree saw in an earlier post that a poster was circling Logan McDonald who I thought was a real chance for a big KP forward. But seems as though those 3 at their age and experience need another big unit to take No 1 defenders. Am hopeful JVR and Turner Petty and Jeffo that 2 0f those at least become real units with 50 plus goals each year. Then with a third tall plus Fritta and Kossie and another 30 plus goalkicker say AMW who I think might Be better as a forward from our list than a half back. Let’s see.

Some D landers over think things at times. I don’t think and never will that our 2021 team was fragile far from it. We lost only 4 games that year and won the flag in Finals with almost record margins. Also some fans are always looking at the half glass empty way of life. Credit where it’s due in 2021 but greater reasons for our failures in 2022/23 than being at the MCG have been mulled over adinfinitem Lrys move on and rejoice after 3 years and give cheap reasons for other Clubs to sneer at our success. . We won in a most challenging year when we adapted superbly to the tasks and situation at hand. West Coast and others sooked it up and ended ruining their own dynasty and have not recovered yet. And tha AFL other Clubs just love it.

Our philosophy has to change to a more attacking style of play. We need to recruit outside running types plus forwards who are great at finishing. Inside bulls we have enough of. To not update our to a different style of player to balance our list is mot going to solve it our problems and prevent us to progress to a more attacking and skill based game plan.

In case you haven’t realised Caleb The Duke Windsor has already replaced Lachie. Although I would like Caleb to be played in the centre this year. He will straighten us up and be in the thick of centre bounces. Caleb has the potential to be another Chad Warner and I believe if in the middle he will add his running and scoring potential more through the middle. This would be another new dimension to our defence and attack connectivity. We can still recruit or choose another winger in the draft.

Who is speedy?

Thank you Jaded. You have corrected fr_p and another poster. IT WAS NOT SHORTENED QRTERS. That was in 2020.Also I haven't heard anyone call Richmond's 2020 flag called a Covid flag. As for fr_p again I call you out. Yes for about 4/5 games in July our form dipped and we lost as you said to Dogs GWS and drew with Hawks at the G. I don't think you can query the Adelaide game we won by 41 pts in the final quarter after a 3 quarter tussle when Fritta had a purple patch. BUT our form in the last 4 H and A games was great like our Finals when it mattered. Gold Coast T Marvel 90 odd pts WIN at Marvel Cats that last quarter comeback from 44 pts down at The Cattery WIN West Coast WIN by 12 pts at Optus after being 30/40 pts up before the lightning strike! WIN And Adelaide as above. And 30 plus pts in Qual Final at Adelaide Oval vs Lions leafing all day. WIN Prelim Final at Optus vs Cats a thrashing 80 pts with Maxy kicking 5 goals the hero. WIN Spoiler Alert. if you believe Chris Scott said Cats had Covid / Virus which killed their chances. And the Granny. 74 pts vs Dogs our 13 th flag !!!! WIN IMO nothing too fragile about those last 7 games when all said and done. You may look at things being half empty but it’s the end results that count. We were the best side in 2021 and I believe no matter where we played the Finals we would have prevailed. I was in Perth for the GF and yes the second term and the third quarter for 15 mins was a tussle but once we hit our straps no way were the Dogs going to challenge us that day. 16 of the last 17 on that day. Unbelievable and not been seen in a GF or other game for years if ever. It was a great effort to win our Flag away in strange and unusual circumstances and our team adapted and was razor sharp at the end part of the 2021 season. Results do not lie. There are no asterisks to any AFL/VFL flags as all are earnt over a season, not just 2/3 finals games in the end.

Way to go with ANB and Hore. Tommo not fazed either way.

PS I live in QLD so all legit.!!