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Mitch Cleary on the AFL site suggesting Tom should look elsewhere next year. Mentioned Essendon and Collingwood as possible homes. Based this on the presumption that we do not want him as we picked Preuss against Freo. Says he still has something to offer, cited the fact he kicked 4 goals in a semi final in 2018. Clearly has not done his research or seen Tom play this or last year. So there you go, maybe some good will come out of this year after all!

Sorry Rusty, but I do not agree with you here. The players have pretty much played the same role week in week out. Now whether that’s in the wrong role is open to discussion. In fact it is a major complaint from most that Goodwin doesn’t change things. Have said it before, the reason we are where we are is simply we are not good enough as a collective group. The bottom 6-10 players picked each week are just not top AFL standard. The same can be said about 10 other clubs.

But didn’t we have that bloke from the Premier League?

He is a restricted free agent, so other clubs do not have to trade for him. If he wants to go, we either accept it, and get a compensatory draft pick based on his contract value, or we match the offer and he stays.

Agree. Add to that the coaching staff are unable to progress the few good players we have. Unless the club changes this soon, even the good players we have will seek to further their careers elsewhere

Fremantle's last 5 games scores- 29, 53, 50, 36 and 48. Have only gone above 60 twice this year. Having said that they have the 3rd least points against. Seems they rely on a defensive game plan. So if we can get some forward connection I think we will win.

If you do the eyes first Coach, you can save yourself the second!

Tom is contracted until end of 2022, on pretty hefty coin. No one is going to take him on that basis. He has zero trade currency.

Bulldogs about to go past us. West Coast are very ordinary

Well done Christian. Probably the only player on the list to have improved from last year, which is a testament to the work he has done. My only hope is that he remains in red and blue once his contract ends in 2022. He will be a restricted free agent then, and I can see him seeking team glory elsewhere.

Geez, we are all feeling pretty low at this point in time, and you start this thread!

Why is it any different here?

I would argue that none of Jackson, Pickett or Rivers are “AFL standard” at this moment. That is not to say they will not become so next year. None would get a game with any of the top 4 clubs at the moment. And Hibberd definitely not, even though he is having a better year than past. So that leaves us pretty thin. Which is why I have been saying for the past month or so that a lot of posters over rate our list. As to trading for quality, we don’t have a lot of currency. We don’t have a first round pick this year. And quality free agents want to go to a club where they can see a premiership in the next couple of years. And that definitely isn’t us.

Don’t be sorry. I thought that was actually pretty good, and very accurate

He could kick 6 and we would still win

Hope not. Was putrid in the GF last year, 1 disposal.

Contracted till end 2021. Pretty sure he was named as an emergency for Saturday night so can’t be too far off. Given a full pre season think he could do some good next year

Oscar Baker?

Both Boyd and Hayes retired. What posters are suggesting in this thread is that Jones be delisted. Since you raise the Bulldogs and St Kilda culture, then I will come back at you with Geelong. At the end of 2015 Geelong had to make a call and delist several veterans. Jimmy Bartel was in the frame, but they decided to give him another year during which he played his 300th. Now which culture would you say was the better of those 3 teams? .

Brilliantly said. All you nuffies saying Jones should not be “gifted” games, need to print this post out and read it every time you go to bed at night. After a 100 or so times through it may penetrate your thick heads.

Whats the go with the mullets at St Kilda...is this their 2020 version of the blond rinse?

Not if we win it and use it well on the inside

But have they? Beaten by North and Freo, fell in against Gold Coast, thumped by Collingwood and Geelong, got Richmond at their lowest, very good against Port. Probably travelling a little better than us at the moment, and should win this one. But they have also been inconsistent this year.

Exactly

Because he won’t be at the club next year