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I wasn't aiming for it to be intended like that. Perhaps I should have used more of these ??

As a reluctant expert, I'd suggest Kent (as has been suggested in infinite other posts) has failed in his defensive duties. The coaching staff rate JKH and want to give him an opportunity and Pedersen, rightly or wrongly is cooked in the eyes of Goodwin and co... Also @Dr. Gonzo, I'd suggest trawling through...lets see... perhaps the two pages previous to the post that you are looking to make, to see what all the other reluctant experts are postulating about...

@Petraccattack - help me out here, whilst I really rate Kent's power running offensively (and clear lack of pressure defensively - presumed reason for omission) - why is THIS a game that he would excel in?

Perhaps we can have a seperate 'blood letting' thread rather than letting the personal stuff derail...

As a reluctant expert - we are watching junk football from BOTH teams... port ain't much chop so far.

One will bring a version of success, one won't.... we're all tainted no matter who within the AFL system comes on board... as they're all tainted...

THAT is SO succinct and SO astute.

because he is young, dumb and full of c..

on form...whats the length of his contract? that should cover it...

Yes, and compelled to mention a half finished PhD for whatever that is worth...

Agreed entirely...mind I used to have a pop at Trapper when I was young and he'd miss targets non stop...thought he was meant to be smooth like a Rolls???

As a reluctant expert @Lord Travis do you think Melksham gets on Demonland a bit and frets about what us up in the bleachers think about him... our voices on here to the players are like yelling into a howling Antarctic wind. To quote a Super Furry Animals song -

Agreed - and the same with Bernie - we could find another 60 goals from those two alone...

As a reluctant expert - I'd say post #240 is spot on - well said @TeamPlayedFine39 - aside from having Paddy, I'd rather not...list clogger...

Let's be clear, the players do not play for us as individuals - (can you imagine if Bernie was thinking of you or me, when bombing goals from 55m - it'd be [censored] hilarious) it is our own relationship to what a win, or a loss means (and its context) that dictates our stress and urgency for another win - so we can make sense of how we are tracking. It's all about hitting behavioural standards as a team, and the teams own expectations are very different from the behavioural standards. If we could have a chart from 14-17, we've improved exponentially - and supporters (myself included) get [censored] scared when its not linear. Further our own expectations as supporters mean one [censored] jot to Goodwin and the boys, inherent in supporting/playing for a team, is that they want to win. An acceptance that performance is not linear, is a good place to start, to become less stressed about 'must win games' - as a supporter (and an athlete) but that does not at all devalue or promote mediocrity/not striving for things...if anything from a performance perspective - an openness and a genuine intellectual and emotional understanding of these things actually promotes consistent performance. But that last point is meaningless as a supporter because we have no direct influence over how the athletes play.

huh? I appreciate your sentiment, but its wide of the mark if you think it promotes mediocrity.

An observation: I feel as a supporter, observing other supporters on Demonland who are starved of success/satisfaction about our club - we latch on to media hype, and take a very very generous gulp of the 'kool aid' about where we should be and about our young stars - we misattribute how important singular games are vs the body of work and get quite hysterical when our expectations are violated.

I'm not concerned as bitter as today's defeat it - so much upside, nor concerned about good wins coaching. Viney looks cooked mostly, melksham is a hack And can someone please recruit Lachie Neale...gun.

No Problems @CBDees - just on that, when it gets to the premium page, I tend to cut the headline out and paste into google/whatever browser you use, then click on the link that comes up and I can read the articles know problems - seems an easy way to sidestep handing over your hard earned... ROB Jackson has spent enough time around top-drawer athletes to recognise the exceptional at first glance. Strength and conditioning coach at Melbourne, Jackson’s journey has pitched him into contact with a gamut of professional sportsmen — some more gifted than others. It was during a stint with the Melbourne Storm that Jackson came to appreciate the unmatched athleticism of Greg Inglis and the unparalleled completeness of Cameron Smith. Both are matchwinners, both hewed from contrasting material. AFL DAILY: HOW DO YOU FILL A GAWN-SIZED HOLE? MATCH REPORT: DEMONS BLOW CHANCE TO BEAT CATS BAROMETER: WHO’S HOT, WHO’S HURT AFTER ROUND 3 Fast forward almost a decade and Jackson draws ready comparison between Inglis and Smith and Demon talents Joel Smith and Clayton Oliver. “Greg Inglis was a freak, an amazing athlete and to watch his ability to turn it on or off was incredible,” Jackson, an IsoWhey Sports ambassador, said.

In the herald sun, feels like a promo for brand being spruiked within the 'article' - nice feedback nonetheless Demon’s praise for ‘stunning athlete’ http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/melbourne/clayton-oliver-and-joel-smith-compared-to-storm-greats-cameron-smith-and-greg-inglis/news-story/cec03e166d10cd231d9a0761cb55e7cd

I take your point with the factual information, this has not been done in reference to a good vs bad game... just a sense of observation. Mind, I'm pretty myopic.

This thread will quickly be consigned to the dustbin, nonetheless, I contest we have got the best of the Jetta family... just sayin.

Just a nerd @Wiseblood

troll?

Ukranian, and if I remember correctly, was voted the best Ukrainian sports person (not sure of exact title, perhaps 'ukrainian decent living outside of ukraine) ahead of Wayne Gretzky.