Engorged Onion

IMO - the game plan has clearly evolved BAMF - I don't believe we play 'chaos' footy (and personally think the use of that term suits an agenda inline with this is why we are fatigued, this is why we have injuries). We slow it down, we have moments of great ball movement, as evidenced against a range of teams. Tis a shame for whatever reason a range of players are innaccurate in front of goal. We have 3 players in particular that seem to be able to hit a target perhaps 20% of the time going i50 - viney, brayshaw and ANB - the delivery and then the resultant shots on goal are the issue. I still have faith in Goodwin and the FD..and the fact that the FD will terminate a range of contracts within the FD.

is Baker our langdon already in the system?

Thanks for the plain english - but it is so meta, i still cannot get my head around it

Interesting opinion @John Demonic. I think it's a borderline call. My lens is, will he be part of our next premiership? I think that's highly doubtful, moreso than likely, thus let's blood some kids and send the bloke off in style...whilst we get his football acumen from a coaching perspective.

except for the times we don't

Er, i didn't see it - what happened?

will it make goodwin a crap coach if we can't?

i don;t love how all the afl highlights are only WCE

mmmm, not the first time at all, agreed.

Are you saying that first, second, third, fourth,fifth,sixth etc etc year coaches, don't continue their professional development and evolve?

I don't think it is wise, or accurate to use any other team as a reference point of what can be done, when there are injuries. Because it's difficult to measure what each individual who is injured how they impact on the team dynamics. Further, let alone analysing whom the team comes up against on a particular week with respect to their oppositions own, form, fitness and confidence levels. We are not a joke, nor are we a laughing stock, that's just language used out of frustration. We will come back next year, maybe not to the extent that we want, andwe will improve. Goodwin is a good coach, who is learning... you don't get to a prelim by being a [censored] coach.

Well, for some reason - I always felt he got the chop a bit too earlier, so lacked continuity. @Satyriconhome do you know if he WILL be elsewhere next season within the AFL itself? Hope so, seemed like a nice bloke.

I see fatigue as a factor, not in the sense that game plan induces fatigue more readily than any other, moreso our players are young, and they were up for 6-8 weeks Goodwin wont change the style, merely to adapt to who we have on the park (or who we dont).... They and the FD would have hoped for better this year... and knowing the nuances understand that with limited prep and all the injuries...then the year was to play out poorly, which isn't a reason in itself to change the course of building a system with continuity. He and the FD can willingly write this year off - and are still playing the game over the next few years. I'll repeat, Goodwin's style isn't anymore fatiguing than any other. They all have to run, and they all get smashed.

Zing, as soon as wrote that - I thought someone would pass this comment

Reduce interchange rotations. I'm thinking of how cooked we were against Carlton in the 4th in particular, and how we couldn't run, couldn't tackle etc. The players would have to conserve energy, throughout the rest of the match - there would be more one on ones...it would then be a spectacle.

Yes, agreed @Bring-Back-Powell I am surprisingly disappointed so far.. he can take some great outstretched marks up the field, and happy to take a hit, it hasn't quite materialised yet in the f50...

Well, with all due respect to Jack, give me Mr Lever for those ceremonial positions.... But moreso - Marty Hore of the chiseled looks (ROLF) - come on - how can that NOT be captaincy material. It's like he is 1940's fighter pilot against the Luftwaffe.

mmm, Im more of a gamelan kind of guy - (but I remembered u2 (who i was in to) sampled this back in 1992...)

Does captaincy actually matter anymore? As teenagers say "Like, actually?'

Public Enemy used to sing @Bitter but optimistic

That sounds tasty.... so, what's the schism?

So you don't think Jack knows how awful his kicking is , and knows that stats, and knows how ordinary he is, and tries to fix it, but can't because he is well, simply limited. I agree with what @Smokey says, a one trick pony who's work ethic was great/what we needed 4 years ago, and now is superseded by more talented players... this is what SHOULD happen of course. Sometimes you get appointed to your 'position of incompetence'... and whilst Im not saying he isn't a leader, I guess the club understand he is a 'spiritual leader' who lacks polish and class when delivering the pill. That of course, may be fine within the playing group itself, but looks ugly for what spectators/supporters want.

I dont know you, but I missed you

Imagine how dominant we would be if we had connection and work rate!

Language evolves @Queanbeyan Demon, that's alright isn't it? I'm sure he uses language that the player's get. I'm sure he talks about Drake, Fortnight and Minecraft... You might not relate to it, I guarantee you the players and staff do.