Engorged Onion

A range of valid points and they don't quite wash for me - I respectfully disagree

I agree Rodney, it was simplistic, and reductionist - I was a little rushed to make my point in-between kids drop off etc. Nonetheless that particular point is illustrative of my overall view. For me, Frost is too inconsistent in game, even though he had a far superior and consistent year than any other.

The pragmatic question is. What don’t the football department see in him going forward. What are the risks that he brings to play? and what is coachable in his attributes?

A point made by @fr_ap on his wonderful thread a little while ago. "Out of players who have played at least 10 games, Frost and OMac are the two who have cost us the most scores as a % of their turnovers. Frost is ranked 12th in the league (1st = a really bad thing), conceding a score 34% of the time he turns it over, resulting in 17 shots at goal (9 goals 8 ) directly from his turnovers. Omac is ranked 15th in the league, conceding a score 33% of the time. " I presume in the AFL world, OMAC has zero currency. Frost does have currency, hence the disparate opinions on this thread. I for one would happily move Frost on, as irrespective of how dynamic he looks when playing, he still makes horrible turnovers that costs momentum, AND he has currency in the AFL world. So, I wish him all the best and good luck to him at Hawthorn, he is a liability wherever he plays.

#mahoneynotdoingenough

I've only been on this forum for a couple of years now - and the first week I got on, there was a bloke/lass promoting knowledge of trades/stuff - he/she may have been called The Riddler... this is ACTUALLY what got me hooked to Demonland... and alas at the end, (s)he vanished, and never responded... If you're out there Riddler, come back and finish what you started.

Fun game Basil = Fawlty, Fawlty Towers = Dean Towers (jokes) Basil = one of many herbs in my garden = Ryan Gardner Basil = you can put it on pizza, pizza is tasty and like a drug, like(s) a drug = Lachie Whitfield?

It's rather tarragont of you to say that thyme is up on this thread. As Cameron Fry once said. "Don't make me participate in your stupid crap...You make me get out of bed. You make me come over. You make me make a phony phone call to Edward Rooney? The man could squash my nuts into oblivion. And, and, and then, and then, you deliberately hurt my feelings."

Lenny, is that you?

@olisik, can you walk me through your rationale?

so, what happened to the post from @Grapeviney

Oh look, another happy clapper out in force

you missed my "hard" quotation marks... anywhoo, apologies for derailing the thread.

Indeed they were Lenny, indeed they were ?

Well, he was once known as the hardest man in the UK. SWYL writing style reminds me of a bloke who is hard as nails and never gives an inch...very, very little empathy.

I am not disputing the veracity of the information... we are all on here because we are whiling away the hours waiting for something interesting to occur to a club that we care about.

correct weight sir

Are you Lenny Mclean come back from the dead? 'Hardest' bloke on this forum by far @Sir Why You Little

...have thought it since I first came onto the forum... It reminds me of the feeling that the most uncomfortable bits of David Brent in the Office would give me.

well that's provocative. ya know, after his attitude towards Lever etc etc etc...

ha ha! D*ck jokes are great aren't they!!

I know this is a CP5 thread, but I do wonder who, or what sort of club aside from GC would be interested in Viney... perhaps Port? In which case you're right - he won't be moving. I for one would prefer out of Viney, Harmes, Gus, Trac and Oliver, for Viney to be moved on, purely from my perception of his limited skill set. And I am sure people will speak about the intangibles (which I value due to the workspace I am in), nonetheless, we need some skill and silk.

100% @Wells 11, 100%.

Please confirm You wrote that deliberately to a) be provocative, so others engage in online sparring with you? b) allow other forum users to be clear on your bigoted views of the world?

Mmmm and multiple games the 'G' throughout the year, as it doesn't suit our game plan.