Demons1858

My read is that there are possibly two things gong on with Oliver. 1 is that the b and f rewards consistency as every player gets votes for each game not just the top three and 2 he isn't following instructions from the coaching staff as much as they would like and is perhaps not as accountable to his opponent. Jack l think runs both ways better than any of the mids but is perhaps less dynamic but consistent. As you say, Max missed games which hits you more in the b and f due to the voting system mentioned. Oliver's kicking particularly early on was really poor

If he holds up a key position in defence which he seemed more than capable of doing at the end, then it will be money well spent. We won't need to rely on below standard defenders like omac

This is his last contact. You can bet he is not yet 100% sure for a while longer while there are still a few suitors that could draw improved offers. There is no need to declare his hand yet as draft hasn't even started yet.

Hawks offering 2 years, l have my doubts about the validity of that. They only offer 1 year deals for 30 plus players. Makes me wonder whether its a dummy 2 year deal designed to extract better offers to the benefit of Smith and to help him get maximum contract money and trade value.

you can't seriously be complaining about the order in which something is written ... time for you to go to bed after your glass of milk

He is going to gold cast, just playing hard to get so he and his manager can attempt to drive up his value. That's my opinion

His season was interrupted by injuries, signs of aging. He joined afl late but he still played footy before joining afl so not buying the 10 year thing. Players can fall off the cliff very quickly when over 30

He is turning 32 in a few months, even a 2 year contract is a stretch.

No pruess and no tmac, we better have another tall ready to go in our back pockets. Wouldn't be against flipping tmac and may forward and back respectively whee games need it to get the best out of the talent we have

l don't buy that Jack was played too early and it hampered his development line. Luke Jackson competes fine in his 1st year and played earlier than watts. Jack just didn't have the work ethic, grit and competitiveness but he did have amazing talent. Jack will continue to drift through life in my opinion, hopefully staying happy and safe

All we need now is for Cam Bruce to join (from the blues after spending time with the hawks) to complement Yze and Green and we'll have an awesome forward line that can kick a sausage from almost anywhere

Things may change over time, but when I spoke to him a couple of days after being drafted, he indicated that he'd spent plenty of time in Melbourne before and was pleased to be coming over. Said he had travelled many times with elite junior squads in more than 1 sport. Also mentioned the fit with MFC needing a flexible tall was attractive

Good point trout, they should both be on the hook

With the soft cap, teams with stronger coaching teams like the hawks will need to move staff on (i.e Yze) ... I would be watching clubs like Geel, Hawt, Rich to see if any of these can be an upgrade on our assistant coaches and pass on their IP

With Viney now signing, we have locked away all our key players for the future until next season... well done to the club ... having said that I would like to keep Hibberd, Jones, Spargo, Hunt, Brown and Hore on one year deals unless we get some trade value for them

SOT will hopefully produce SOJ

think its a consultant type role but could be wrong ... may be interested in a full time gig

Tommy mac can easily go back into defence if Brown comes in

gubby allen with links to Collingwood and Pert would be available

Was Richo at collingwood while Pert was there ...

Wonder whether Dees are considering moving Richo on

he had alot of luck, as all ops were done early leading into his pre season, as opposed to the prior season where we carried over injuries due to our bid to win the granny. having said that, he appear to be doing well and oversaw minimal reinjuries which is a big tick

l still remember the uproar from supporters on this forum when he was getting traded

perhaps throw in Colin Sylvia

are you kidding, hit a parked car and left the scene