Demons1858

Anyone know a young key forward who has consistently averaged over 2 goals per game that we can target? In all seriousness, we can manage with two keys in Weid and TMac with Preuss/Smith playing only when we think we can stretch the opposition tall's or need ruck support

Didn't we pay more for him as an unproven 17 year old? We seem to (on paper anyway) appear to have undervalued him a little in the Freo trade. I value a proven young gun forward much more highly than a like midfielder as they are rare, take time to come on, and you can build a team around them. But that doesn't mean we had an unsuccessful trade period. How well we identify the right player to undertaken an identified role and their cultural fit will determine that e.g. Hibberd, and Melksham ended up being a good fit after looking like we paid a little over. We also seem to have done ok with the GC trade. Congrats to the club for attracting talent like May against other big clubs chasing him

Apparently medical checks identified a serious and chronic torn eye brow. Cameron to go for a 4th rounder

They are just trying to create a market place for their picks

It's not over until the trade period is over! Freo have stopped the 'public' due diligence process.

Yep, why would MFC lose an A grade talent like Hogan and not get the picks we need to get May across the line

Sorry AF, I'm happy to assume that he has nominated Freo but hasn't gone public. Happy to read between the lines on this one

Well done to Dom. Still remember our win interstate against Adel in the difficult years where he kicked a late goal for the dees. Gave us hope when we needed it and will be remembered fondly

The fact mfc and freo are in heavy negotiations more than likely indicates that Jessie has told MFC he wants to go. It also suggests he and Freo have also agreed to contract terms. But don't expect Jessie to come out and say that publicly as he doesn't want egg on this face if it falls through

If there is a genuine 2nd club in this then I'm guessing its Sydney as they have some history of coming in from no where ... an alternative is it is a rumour designed to invigorate the market place and / or sell papers / listeners

Correct. Very risky move though for the player and potential club so doubt / hope this doesn't happen. In any case don't think Jessie would do that to mfc given the positive relationship we have with him

Do some research and understand the basics of how the draft and trade period works Einstein. We don't get an opportunity to match the offer if he goes into the draft and he's not a free agent. Fact

You asked for an example, l didn't have to but l have you one. Move on. l am

This is getting boring. We would have this years 1st rounder and future selections to work our way into a trading position for him.

Haven't you been watching the trades so far. It's not rocket science. Clubs are trading picks for picks to jostle to a position that allows them to get the player they are targeting.

No! But we would be able to use that to bundle up the right package as collateral.

Is it too sensitive for some supporters to bring up the fact that if we held firmer with the Lever trade, we would be able to get May without needing the picks from Freo

The danger in being consistently pragmatic and making guarantees to players, is that clubs know you will give in somewhat and therefore negotiate with you on that basis. With the Lever trade and other lesser trades, clubs now know our trading philosophy I'm not sure longer term if it won't hurt us

Agree for the most part. Preuss is really the one we need given the season can fall apart pretty quickly if Max goes down. Others would be great. Problem with all the interconnected trades though is that they involve contracted players and clubs can hold on to Neale, Hogan and May. Deals typically get done in the end though and we still have a number of days to go. The fact Freo have traded picks suggested they are getting ready for a Hogan deal and MFC must have given them some clear guidelines. Until then, don't expect May and Hogan to declare their hand either as they won't want to have egg on their faces. I will know Hogan is gone to Freo when the MFC roll out their 'Hogan to Freo' PR campaign to manage supporter angst

Bit harsh

Agree, no one will want him. Perhaps that is part of the Freo plan to wake him up and realise he only has 1 more year to make a change.

Can't blame him for being attracted to job security. What VFL player knocks back a 4 year deal? MFC would have sold the fact that Hogan will likely to be going and he has the chance to prove himself as our 3rd tall (note that Goodwin gave Spencer every chance to combine with Gawn previously). At worst, he will play games where teams have strong dual rucks combo's or when Gawn is injured. Going to 6:6:6 next year means the ball will be in the air so he would back himself to get a game. Re Jessie, don't expect any news on that for some time. He is obviously wanting to go, but why would he make a fool of himself and nominated Freo only to find out shortly after that the Freo and Bris negotiations fall through and the draft picks Freo need from Neale deal are no longer available and return to MFC with his tail between his legs. Likewise May holding off on a decision

The intensity of afl players around stoppages has increased significantly in recent years and he lacks in his area, is a poor kick, gets caught hold the ball looking for the best option, and has poor defensive attributes. True that he is the next best if we have an injury to a mid but he would be one of the better paid BACKUP mids in the comp. From a money ball perspective his backup mid role can be replaced and cap space utilised elsewhere

Two wrongs don't make a right. Bontempelli was there for the taking also

Seems we lost the salem/tyson vs kelly trade its safe to say. No disrespect to either player just reality