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He was immense in 2013. Iirc he was ranked one of the top 10 defenders in the competition that season, and was one of the few players from the Neeld era who improved their games. A look at his win/loss ratio says it all about his time at the club, 141 games for a win ratio of 24.82%

While not disagreeing that the club badly mismanaged his initial career Watts has never shown the drive to improve- Jones, Jetta and Pedersen are examples of less naturally gifted players who worked hard on improving their games and have cemented their places in the best 22. Watts has been kicked up the arse multiple times by different coaches (Neeld, Roos & Goodwin have all dropped or challenged him at one stage or another to improve his game) and it still hasn't clicked for him. I'm not sure moving to Port will change that as I think it's all above the shoulders for Jack.

Anyone who stands by and supports an organisation that pumped his son full of unknown drugs doesn't deserve to have their opinions taken seriously. Besides, given how OTT Adelaide's reaction was to Lever moving, decking him out in club colours while still negotiating would likely have led to the Crows digging their heels in and demanding more.

They bent us over in this trade.

Success? They folded like a cheap deck of cards in the grand final. At full tilt they're a good team the Crows but they seem to be a bit mentally brittle

Clearly learnt some bad lessons at the Dockers

To be fair to Balic, he (and his fellow youth players at the FFC) didn't get a look in to the senior side until the Dockers got thrashed in their first two games of the year. Lyon has his system and preferred players, and was loath to mix it up even after their 2016 season.

Don't think it's been handled particularly well but I'm hoping it's the shot across the bows that the playing group needed after the Collingwood capitulation- don't train/perform and you're out the door. Which is as it should be. It speaks volumes that a professional athlete would not be consistent enough in their training and approach to their career that teammates would call them out on their behaviours. Passengers won't win us finals and when it comes to the pointy end of next season Jack won't be the difference between Port winning a flag or not.

Sick of everyone saying the fans need to dream or not sook etc. The club would have folded long ago if not for us and I for one have had it. The players and administration don't respect the club or the fans that much is clear, we won't win a flag with the current list because they don't care, bar a notable few like Pedersen, Oliver, Petracca and Viney. The rest are content to collect their pay and turn up when they feel like it, without fear of ramifications

Jones alluded to his extra-curricular activities in a post-season interview, would imagine that's the catalyst for this move

Ffs we would have wiped the deck with this Port outfit

Taberner is rubbish, no way we should go for him when we have Weidemann in the VFL. It speaks volumes to a forwards abilities when they're unable to lock a spot down in the current Freo set up.

To be fair I think it's 3 working days for metro deliveries now, but yeah definitely not the best idea in the world

That's concerning if true as Viney should be driving improvements in training too. He's a leader of the club now and as such is responsible for his team mates.

Tbh press conferences mean nothing, every pregame interview where a player says something along the lines of 'this time we're ready' we lose. Better we avoid the press insofar as we can contractually

Adelaide did us a favour in a way. It would not have benefited the club to limp into finals and get belted by Port. Yes, I want to see the club play in September again as badly as anyone but at the very least the nature of the end of season collapse may force the footy department to reassess and make tough calls rather than persist with minor tweaks after achieving the club's goal of playing finals. And FWIW I think WC may end up ruing finals, as this is a crack papering exercise for them.

They can GAGF. We hear this every year. Had years of being irrelevant, now we are only relevant as a laughing stock. Disgusting effort from the club.

If that's how you feel you should turn your membership in. I know I feel like doing so right now

Free kick count 6-3 for WC, maggots will do everything they can to give the Eagles a winning send off at Subi

This club is [censored]

Collingwoods problem is the entire footy dept not just Buckley. Their list manager has made some shocking calls, and now they're paying the price for it. To be fair to Buckley his attitude towards Mayne suggested to me that he didn't want Mayne in the first place, which may indicate that decisions are being made for him on that front. Would have to believe it's hubris informing these decisions however, and the handling of Buckley is similar to how they handled Cloke. Denial that there was a problem, persisting with him despite the diminishing returns, and going to ever more outlandish methods to turn it around (hiring a sports psychologist for one) rather than dropping him. Once he got the bullet though it was pretty quick and I have a feeling Buckleys will play out the same way

Not sure Freo would have room in their cap to fit Hogan in - they've just re-signed Fyfe to a mega deal, and they're currently in the process of re-signing most of their young crew. From a selfish POV it would suit Hogan (if he were to go home) to go to WC where he could play second role KPF to Kennedy for a couple of years instead of being dropped into the [censored] truck forward line of Kersten and MacCarthy

Jones is the one player who can hold his head high from the Neeld era, I think every true football fan around the country would cheer him accepting his premiership medal

Time to face the truth- the players are all mercenaries. They don't care about the club or the supporters, they don't care about losing to a rabble like the NMFC, at the end of the day they all get rich off the membership money we all pay and the merchandise we purchase. Absolutely disgusted with today

WC are just a soft club,their tackles aren't sticking and defensive pressure is poor