Mazer Rackham

Whether he is toeing the company line or not doesn't matter. Whether he privately can't stand the coach or not doesn't matter. What matters is that he's buying in to the coach's way of doing things. The only way is forward. Go Demons!

Greg Denham ... welcome to Demonland!

No. Bluey is a stirrer, with a sense of humour.

What the hell are you playing at, Range Rover? When there's so much to gripe about ... Garry Lyon; Ross Lyon; missing out on Sanderson/McCartney/every other coach in the land; whether we stuffed up in choosing Neeld; Cam Schwab the modern Machiavelli; recruiting; and more ... So much fodder for misery and self-flagellation ... ... and you have the hide to come on here and talk about winning. Now how about we resume normal service? Have you heard about Greece? Ain't it awful?

Probably that a giant comet will strike the earth and we're all going to die.

I guess you've really proved something here. But who the f knows what?

With the mindset half the posters have here on 'land, it wouldn't matter. If the club had done psychological profiling, they would have been accused of being fancy-pants and fiddling about while the best candidates get snapped up by the other clubs. The club did what they thought best at the time. Deal with it. All this second guessing is achieving nothing.

Yes; Daniel Harford on SEN recognised that our wins were not really putting us on the right path to success. It wasn't the right kind of footy to take us to finals success, was his take.

Ha! ha! When I read this thread, I envisage some posters (late at night, under a dim lamp bulb) with little clothes pegs that they have drawn faces on, and given names like "Garry", "Cam", "Neale", "Gabriel" and so on. They have got an old shoe box and some tape and made a lovely little "board room" with a tiny cardboard "board room table". Then they act out little power plays, manipulating the pegs around the table, working and reworking imagined scenarios. "Garry gets fired"; "Bailey gets reappointed"; "Cam goes before a firing squad"; "Norm Smith is exhumed", and on and on. Not therapeutic, not cathartic. Just nursing and tending old wounds, for no purpose except to entrench negative feelings. Get over it people! What happened, happened. There is no going back. Work with what we have, positively and constructively. There is no other way. Onwards and upwards. Go Demons!

Hello, McFly? What's done is done, it's over, dead and buried. There is nothing to gain in going over old decisions that, were the clock wound back, may or may not have turned out differently. It's like re-enacting the battle of Waterloo with miniatures. It might be fun, but does not achieve anything. The only viable course of action is to work with what we have. Onwards and upwards. Go Demons!

"Hey, you'll never guess what happened, man." "Uh, you broke the key off in the lock?" "HOW DID YOU KNOW?" "Hey, did you really, man?!?" "Yeah, I must have turned it the wrong way or somethin', coz it broke right off in the lock, man."

Neeld sings this to players at training: "What we're trying to get through ... it's a brave new world, we can all be cool." Craig: "Wars or hands of time will not destroy our dreams of days that are to come" Dunno what Davey & Sylvia are singing .... "a land of fairy tales and good things are all a child dreams all day ..."

Walls has conveniently forgotten about the bruise-free footy last year; and all the games in 2010-11 that we "should have" won, or at least been competitive in, but ended up being thrashed. I wonder why Walls the Omniscient didn't warn us about Energy Watch before we signed with them?

1. umpires make mistakes. Get over it. 2. a study in German soccer showed that umpires are influenced by crowds. Fact of life. 3. the umpiring will miraculously improve when we start winning games.

Now you're getting the hang of it. Go Demons!

Yes, it seems you do.

Come on, you love it. Gives another opportunity to sink the boots in.

Still here. Not enjoying the score, but enjoying the boys working at it and not giving up. Thanks for thinking of me.

Malthouse the commentator is not a patch on Malthouse the coach. Malthouse the commentator knows all, sees all, nothing surprises him.

Support your team! fer chrissake. Even if it's only an internet forum. The amount of negative talk is unbelievable.

We've seen it coming for some time. But it's still a shock. What a titan. Godspeed Jimmy. Condolences to the Stynes family and friends.

Two Collingwood supporters talking. 1: Mate, I've found the best pub. Ya go there, an' they give ya free grog, as much as ya want. 2: Free grog? 1: Yeah mate, an' later on, ya can go out the back and ya get a free root! 2. What? You got free grog and a free root? Lucky bastard. 1: Oh, well, not me mate. I haven't been there yet. Me girlfriend told me about it.

Good on you Cam. I reckon you're doing a fantastic job and I'm glad you're part of the MFC. As for negativity, forums like this are an adventure playground for pessimists and black hats. Please take them with a grain of salt. Keep up the great work.

Murdoch rag = ethics free zone

I believe it's a matter of when, not if, for Jack. And when it happens, wait for Malthouse to say he always knew JW would come good, etc. It won't take the old hypocrite long.