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Has Travis Tuck nominated?

Dear Rolly, Don't even try to compare Rivers with Garland. 92 kg and slow as an Ox. I have never known him to win a one on one. They say he is a great 3rd man, that's only because he starts off -- one on one and ends up being third when the ball gets near them. Garland held whatever backline we had last year together. His run and rebound was superb.

Given that we hung onto Newton for 7 years (or was it an eternity?), I would not write anyone off at this stage.

Do you actually watch these guys play or just read their stats? Garland is up there with our most consistant and corageous defenders. Spoils like a beast, marks well and uses the ball effectivley. Comparisons to morton are so far off the mark its not funny.

I don't want us to compare JV to HWFUA so I would go for 23. We are going to compare them, aren't we? We are such douchebags...

totally agree. I cant believe he is able to find the strength and time to be involved with the footy club, let alone be the president words like inspirational, legend, great, role model etc get bandied around a little to much for my likeing, but Jim deserves every bit of recognition he gets.

Yes. The mail i got a couple of months back must have been on the mark, but the Docs have given him one more Life. He is like a cat Jimma. Let us all hope like Hell he gets to see another Demon win at the 'G.

I'd like to see us draft a small forward prospect (not sure if we've got any of them on the PTT list?) and a ready-to-play mature mid or two (I think we're going to play a grinding game that will require plenty of soldiers). A speculative tall forward if there's one worth considering. The rookie draft can be a good place to look for ruckmen but I don't think we need any more, or tall backs or medium forwards.

Ol' Chris is struggling to keep up with the sheer flexibility of Bec, too many hard ball gets for Bec in the midfield. Chris needs to eliminate or at least minimize his clangers and improve his effectiveness in and under. If he can stay the distance and reduce his rotations he may get some consistency in his performance. It's quite obvious Bec is overworking him. Premiership quarter is where it counts Chris.

You folks seem pretty injury-prone. Not like me. I'm obviously made of steel since no amount of jumper-fetching and doona-reaching can undo my shoulders of iron.

You guys aren't suggesting that it's important to train well and play well as well as interviewing well are you? What an amazing revelation.

Indeed. By singling out four individual players at the club, pinpointing perceived deficiencies in the way they play and linking them by their race, Barry Dawson is guilty of racial sterotyping of the worst order. It's offensive and unacceptable anywhere. In the normal course, I would discuss a sanction against Barry Dawson with the other mods which would involve at the very least, the removal of his posts (which are an embarrassment to me and to the site), but I thought it might be better to retain them as an example of the sheer ignorance that racist talk entails. In the last century, we saw several instances of what happens when racist stereotyping is accepted and becomes rife within society. In the extreme cases, it led to the deaths of millions of Jews, Gypsies and others who were not to the liking of a pathological murderer in Europe, a million and a half in Cambodia in the 70s, a similar number of Armenians at the hands of the Turks almost 100 years ago and close to a million in Rwanda in the 90s. And we never seem to learn because fifty years after Hitler, the massacre took place on European soil of more than 8,000 Bosnian Muslims in and around the town of Srebrenica in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Today, there are parts of modern, liberal Europe where the old hatred of Jews thrives and there are countless parts of the globe where the killing and rape of innocents on the basis of racial and/or religious differences go on unabated. Our own Indigenous people suffered similarly when the white man turned up here and the killing began and went on until they were utterly decimated. Our former prime minister issued an apology for what our forebears did but it seems that it passed over some people's heads and that bigotry is still alive and healthy even here. But racism at the Barry Dawson level, whilst it might not kill or injure physically, is often deeply hurtful to individuals in a society - it's a cowardly form of bullying that we don't have to accept from anyone these days - certainly not here. You can criticise any individual player as much as you like on this site as long as you do so constructively but if you associate that criticism with the person's race or religion, you cross the line into an area that is grossly offensive and unacceptable and won't be tolerated.

I don't think it's a minority that believes your comments are racist.

What was that about boganesque behaviour?

Nice. Pigeon holing an entire race. Your assertion that the issue is purely down to players being indigenous is offensive. These boys aren't alone in underachieving. Underachievment has been a blight on our club for years and has nothing to do with cultural difference. A culture of indifference has been a bigger problem. A culture that has accepted mediocrity has been a bigger problem. What about the indigenous talent we didn't draft, but were in a position to do so? Were we correct in passing on Adam Goodes? Michael O'Loughlin? Cyril? Did we get those right? If Lance Franklin were a free agent and listed Melbourne as his preferred club, would you suggest we give him a miss? I'm not saying the boys you've singled out don't deserve a spray, but your focus is far too narrow. Far more players than you've named have been mollycoddled and given more leeway than they should have.

and bring back the ressies before the main game

* add in-your-face betting agency advertising, the most distasteful development of the lot IMO.

I think it's time that fans were treated with respect by the AFl and clubs . It's about time a representative body of the paying public /viewers was formed to take on the AFL over issues like GWS fraudulence, the increasing corporatisation of the game, the rule changes, the woeful umpiring, the disgusting food /beer forced on fans, the ridiculous promotion of products throughout the game, the woeful entertainment on GF day, the ridiculous Etihad deal that is breaking some clubs every time they play there. Millions of dollars, from paying idiots like us, gets flushed away on half-wit schemes like GWS whilst established clubs, Melbourne, Swans, Saints, Dogs and Lions see success become harder to obtain or are forced to move/merge . Community football, local clubs, Auskick etc receive little benefit from the expansion of the AFL. In order to sell more burgers in West Sydney, the goodwill and history of our great club has been eroded and stolen for a fraudulent and artificial franchise. The TS saga aside, this would never have happened had the clubs/fans had a say. If the NSW AFL had put forward it's own proposal for a new team then fine. What I object to most is that the huge headless glutton we call a CORPORATION has stolen an organic culture and replaced it with culture LITE . Most people are too stupid or sated to notice but, as with cricket, this sort of crap will destroy the game. I suggest a symbolic protest during which the fans start bringing their own food and drink to games again and refuse the slop they sell at grounds. The individual players should have their salaries capped at half a million. Twice as much as the PM is more than enough . The argument will come back that kids will choose cricket or basketball over AFL if we cap the salaries. Cricket is already ruined by TV and corporatisation and basketball is broke. Fans of all clubs should rise up and make some simple demands for the benefit of a game we have founded and funded for generations. It's time we stopped the game being run by people who know the price of everything and the value of nothing .