14 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

Because we are a club with no leverage and need to accept we are in rebuild mode. Besides I dont recall a trade Lamb has completed where we showed any sort of "spine"; we should not be surprised if this is the deal.

You may want too look away when the Oliver deal comes through.

Our leverage is a 4 year contract - someone needs to remind our pretend chef of its existence

3 minutes ago, Demon4Life said:

Only reporting what I hear from people in the know. Which includes me on many topics.

As I've said last week my guess is that to force the issue is Lamb comes out today and says we love Trac, he is a superstar and we are more than happy for him to stay. This opens the door for the Humphrey strong trade request wither publicly or to GC privately.

What's the in the background:

1. Trac wants to leave

2. We want him gone

3. We are really [censored] at him for telling GC we will fold in trade for BH

4. GC have a lot of marketing/sponsorship already committed around Trac

5. BH wants to come to Melb

Probably shouldn't have told/made it obvious to Petracca we would fold then?

Just now, KozzyCan said:

Probably shouldn't have told/made it obvious to Petracca we would fold then?

Couldn't have done much more. Already kept "Team Trac" against their preference for a year

1 hour ago, Sydee said:

Our leverage is a 4 year contract - someone needs to remind our pretend chef of its existence

I would agree, but this is the MFC unfortunately.

32 minutes ago, Demon4Life said:

Just got an update. Dees still pushing hard for Humphrey who should come out in the next 24 hours with a trade request.

Yeah but did you hear this at a BBQ though?

10 hours ago, Doug Reemer said:

And how did that work or for us?

We got the body language on field of a prisoner and a “leader” who couldn’t care less.

And a lazy 16 Brownlow votes - oh but those umpires aren't good judges. Best of the rest Max 23, Pickett 10.

Just now, Jibroni said:

I would agree, but this is the MFC unfortunately.

Like I said - time to get a spine rather than being the perpetual easy beats

If I was Lamb and wanted to play hard ball I would trade our picks 24, 28 with Clarry for GWS 12 and 35.

Takes points away in any trade with GC for Trac.

Forces them to look harder at CP for BH

Edited 5 hours ago5 hr by Demon4Life

1 minute ago, Demon4Life said:

Couldn't have done much more. Already kept "Team Trac" against their preference for a year

If the club thought they were fooling anyone when it came to keeping Petracca this year they are dreaming. We are openly cleaning out all the players who have caused issues over the past few years. Easiest bluff to call ever.

8 minutes ago, LePig said:

I still have faith in jeffo to make it this year, blokes got an 80% hit rate, have a little faith.

Yeh and JVR will bag 85.

Edited 5 hours ago5 hr by GawnOfTheDead

Humphrey has genuine reasons to want to come home

Whether he chooses to air them publicly and damage GC's reputation, is his choice

If he does, and GC refuse to trade him, then they will come out looking terrible

1 minute ago, Demon4Life said:

If I was Lamb and wanted to play hard ball I would trade our picks 24, 28 with Clarry for GWS 12 and 35 or 37.

Takes points away in any trade with GC for Trac.

Forces them to look harder at CP for BH

I agree, get Lamby and the team to have a BBQ of their own and cook up some deals today to shift all our picks out.

Or let him just say, our head hasn’t been turned at this stage, there’s still time but it needs to be a significant improvement on what’s been suggested so far

Edited 5 hours ago5 hr by BW511

I’m inclined to tell Petracca if we can’t get Humphrey, then Petracca stays. And if he isn’t totally invested in the club both performance and spirit etc, he can jolly well run around in the VFL. It’ll be an expensive lesson for us yes, but by golly it sends a huge message.

2 minutes ago, GawnOfTheDead said:

Yeh and JVR will bag 85.

Should have been a bit clearer, was referring to jt’s hit rate with first rounders.

so Team Trac is the club mole?

1 hour ago, Demon4Life said:

If I was Lamb and wanted to play hard ball I would trade our picks 24, 28 with Clarry for GWS 12 and 35.

Takes points away in any trade with GC for Trac.

Forces them to look harder at CP for BH

The problem is that the club wants Clarry out the door and are willing to take unders. If we ended up with anything that a 2nd and or 3rd rounders I would be shocked.

6 minutes ago, Demon4Life said:

If I was Lamb and wanted to play hard ball I would trade our picks 24, 28 with Clarry for GWS 12 and 35 or 37.

Takes points away in any trade with GC for Trac.

Forces them to look harder at CP for BH

Will that still allow us remaining picks for White and other draftees we want?

3 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

so Team Trac is the club mole?

Not surprising!

Edited 5 hours ago5 hr by DoubleH

10 minutes ago, qarocks said:

why is everyone losing their [censored] over picks 7&8? historically, this is a "good deal" considering some of these trades that went down...

Essendon trades pick nine, 2019 1st round pick to GWS for Dylan Shiel and 2019 2nd round pick.
GWS trades Jeremy Cameron and two 2021 2nd round picks to Geelong for pick 13, pick 15, pick 20 and a 2021 4th round pick.
Fremantle trades Lachie Neale and pick 30 to Brisbane for pick six, pick 19 and pick 55.
Adelaide trades Patrick Dangerfield and pick 50 to Geelong for pick nine, pick 28 and Dean Gore.
West Coast trades Chris Judd and pick 46 to Carlton for Josh Kennedy, pick three and pick 20.

The optics aren't necessarily bad in terms of value vs the results you presented above. The biggest issue I have is the so called low quality of this draft that people continually throw around in the media.

Also - personally, I never rate draft picks. The risk is just too high with not getting a full return when you're losing a known star player. We must get a known player of high quality in return,.

Out of your list above, Cameron, Danger and Neale - all known stars at the time - went on to win premierships at there new clubs. Shiel was just a horrible trade all around for the Bombers and the Judd trade broke even solely due to Josh Kennedy becoming a superstar.

As the old saying goes, 'a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush' which is especially prevalent around how the Cats traded Danger and Cameron noting:

• The giants return of draft picks ended up being Conor Stone, Ryan Angwin and Brayden Cook.

• The crows return of draft picks ended up being Wayne Milera, Dean Gore and Troy Menzel

Could the Crows have won the 2017 premiership with Danger running around for them? Maybe.

Would the Cats continued being a powerhouse without Cameron/Danger? Unlikely.

Would the Lions have done as well without Lachie Neale? Unlikely

Could GWS pinched a flag with Cameron still there? Maybe.

Anyways, you're probably right that it looks a good deal and the draft picks above aren't as high as above obviously, but I just wanted to get my point across about how draft picks can really suck.

If it ends up being picks 7 and 8 for Trac, [censored] sending Gold Coast back pick 24 to assist with their academy products.

If they’re not going to pony up and give trade Humphrey who clearly wants out, why should we have to help them secure their neatly packaged path to a premiership.

It’s more the principle than thinking pick 24 is a future superstar, I am so sick of this club just rolling over.

FWIW Ben Ainsworth was just interviewed on SEN and without admitting much new , acknowledged that his former teammate BH genuinely is trying to balance ‘issues’ at home with decision making over his future.

Come on Bailey

Do something!!

Edited 4 hours ago4 hr by Demongirl35

Just heard Ben Ainsworth (GC footballer newly traded to Carlton and also from Gippsland) on SEN, he mentioned Bailey Humphrey being a Moe boy and having family reasons to move back to Melbourne. Sounded like Humphrey is desperate to come back home to Victoria.

8 minutes ago, Demongirl35 said:

Come on Bailey

Do something!!

It's lovely that Humphrey's mates are trying to do some heavy lifting, but until Humphrey or his useless manager speak up, nothing changes

The narrative has to flip very quickly from "GC are not trading him" to "GC now acknowledge that despite their best efforts, they cannot help Bailey's family situation"