Just now, DemonOX said:

I feel the same way but have a sinking feeling it will be pics.

Then we hold Tracc to his contract... What could be clearer! Bout time we showed some Gonads in negotiation

Edited October 12Oct 12 by picket fence

I’ll hold fire until Demon Forever gets home from the BBQ, but it’ll be weak as [censored] if Humphrey has made it very clear he wants to go home and we don’t leverage that in negotiations

If we want to settle for picks while there is a potential star wanting to get out, Lamb can pack his bags and fly up with Trac on Thursday morning

Edited October 12Oct 12 by demoncat

Lol Trac ain't staying.

Players don’t nominate a club unless they know a deal can be done

Or they’re Trac and they don’t give a stuff and just want to force the hand that feeds them

1 minute ago, DemonOX said:

I feel the same way but have a sinking feeling it will be pics.

When did we hire Luke Sayers???

I’m sorry, but if GC aren’t willing to trade BH but also don’t want to give 7 & 8 without getting some other draft points coming back, then that’s too [censored] bad.

GC aren’t only wanting their cake and eating it, they want another cake as well.

They can PO, and I hope Lamb tells them that too………………..though previous experience says that he won’t.

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Lol Trac ain't staying.

We finally agree on something

Yah.. and the deal will be obviously for the two early picks and a bunch late picks included.

2 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Then we hold Tracc to his contract... What could be clearer!

I get it and agree but do U really think we will do this? I don’t which is why it will end up being pics imo. Hope I Wrong.

1 minute ago, Demon Disciple said:

I’m sorry, but if GC aren’t willing to trade BH but also don’t want to give 7 & 8 without getting some other draft points coming back, then that’s too [censored] bad.

GC aren’t only wanting their cake and eating it, they want another cake as well.

They can PO, and I hope Lamb tells them that too………………..though previous experience says that he won’t.

EXACTLY, which is why we shall forever be a small easily pushed aside club!

Just now, dazzledavey36 said:

Yah.. and the deal will be obviously for the two early picks and a bunch late picks included.

And Tim Lamb and Alan Richardson should hand in their resignations promptly for an utterly embarrassing and weak effort. the trade period that sees us lose Clarry, Trac and McVee plus later picks, AND pay half of Clarrys salary for picks 7, 8 and 36 in a heavily compromised draft is indefensible.

We all know Trac won't stay, but serious football clubs hold senior people accountable when they are bent over the barrel and saying "We'll only trade him if they turn our head" and then accepting THAT deal is putrid.

3 days is a long time in a stand-off

only question is whether lamb has the cajones

2 minutes ago, Very Jaded said:

Players don’t nominate a club unless they know a deal can be done

Or they’re Trac and they don’t give a stuff and just want to force the hand that feeds them

The same should apply with us and Trac. Deal only gets done with Humphrey included.

The reality is the GCS knew our threats to keep Trac were idle. Pics have already been discussed.

Lamb keeps saying we look to get a net gain out of trade week.

Well the way the Trac, Clarry, McVee compo is looking, we are 5 over par.

8 minutes ago, mo64 said:

Every other player wanting a move has nominated a club, bar Bailey Humphrey. If he was 100% committed to joining us, he would have done so already. You don't leave it till the last 3 days. Maybe he wants to get home, but his preferred club doesn't have the draft capital.

And the fact that draft picks have already been discussed for Trac's move means the Humphrey was always just a pipedream.

Now watch Lamb get bent over with the Trac deal and hand over every pick that GCS needs to get their academy players.

correct. Humphrey, if he does want us to "take [him] home, to the place [he] belongs" needs to publicly say it, rather than these cryptic I/G posts.

Maybe one day people will realise we are keen for Trac to go

16 minutes ago, Very Jaded said:

We need to call their bluff

Lamb needs to publicly say tomorrow that we look forward to Trac being in red and blue next year as it appears GC are not forthcoming with giving us appropriate compensation for him in a trade

And tell CAC to call us when he and Dimma are willing to trade Humphrey

My respect for Lamb would increase dramatically if he did this.

He won't though.

1 minute ago, mo64 said:

The reality is the GCS knew our threats to keep Trac were idle. Pics have already been discussed.

I don’t think picks have been discussed from our end. It’s what GC is proposing and what the media is parroting.

If Humphrey was not an option, in that he refused to be involved in the trade, it would be a completely different story and we would have done a deal for picks

However he is keen and willing, so we can’t cave

But as you say everyone in the industry knows the club can’t keep Trac. That relationship is untenable.

1 minute ago, adonski said:

Maybe one day people will realise we are keen for Trac to go

Definitely will be less leaks

And again, I just don’t understand why Bailey’s camp isn’t pushing this harder? If he wants to go as much as he obviously does, his manager should be working overtime to make that clear to GC and to leverage the fact that there’s an interested party in the MFC who can actually give GC something of value

Edited October 12Oct 12 by demoncat

Just now, demoncat said:

And again, I just don’t understand why Bailey’s camp isn’t pushing this harder? If he wants to go as much as he obviously does, his manager should be working overtime to make that clear to GC and to leverage the fact that there’s an interested party in the MFC who can actually govern GC something of value

My guesses are

1- his manager is a nobody and doesn’t want to burn bridges with clubs as he has to power

2- Humphrey doesn’t think GC will budge regardless, so doesn’t want to burn his bridges at GC or harm his reputation

At the end of the day Trac has screwed us with publicly committing to a club after last year trying to set the club on fire

Maybe it not the dees he wants to come to 😩

I was hopeful of Humphrey too. But probably time to accept it’s likely not going to happen.

But people saying 7&8 aren’t enough, and that we should keep Trac if that’s the offer, are wide of the mark too.

No player in AFL history, as far as I can remember, has gone for two top 10 picks in a trade. Yes it’s a compromised and weak draft, but it’s still an excellent haul for a bloke who’s about to turn 30.

No point jumping off the West Gate if that’s what it ends up being. Just have to back JT in to do his thing.

4 minutes ago, Very Jaded said:

But as you say everyone in the industry knows the club can’t keep Trac. That relationship is untenable.

If this is widely known, isn't the result a fait accompli?

Even if we attempted to bluff - and we seem more like boring ultra-pragmatists when it comes to trading more than we do card players - they'd immediately call it. Wouldn't they?

Let’s just keep the bbq going people.

Things can change quickly.

I did say I thought if he didn’t nominate us publicly by Thurs last week it won’t go ahead, but who knows.