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Trade, Keep, New Position

Petracca, Oliver, Viney.

What's your take on those 3 names moving forward? Considering how we need to change to a fast paced and clean disposal footy.

41 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Trade, Keep, New Position

Petracca, Oliver, Viney.

What's your take on those 3 names moving forward? Considering how we need to change to a fast paced and clean disposal footy.

Same,Lever and May as well

48 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Trade, Keep, New Position

Petracca, Oliver, Viney.

What's your take on those 3 names moving forward? Considering how we need to change to a fast paced and clean disposal footy.

Might be harsh, but we looked better without any of those 3 touching the ball.

A good effort, especially given the week that was.

Thoughts on Adams?

Great set play early from kick out - why Sid we only see it once?

Last home game and wont lose too many fans with that performance.

51 minutes ago, Dees1911 said:

Might be harsh, but we looked better without any of those 3 touching the ball.

Unfortunately footy has moved on from the contest first approach.

Just look at the NBA for example, how different it was in the early 2000s. Then you arrive to the GSW of the mid 2010s.

In today's NBA, you basically are no good if you can't shoot.

Same is happening in footy, it's not enough to be physically imposing or athletic. Skills are the most valuable commodity.

Some good signs, but same old result in a close game! When will we win one of these?

Also, great effort from Sam Darcy in the last minute, but no way was that a mark!

3 hours ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Trade, Keep, New Position

Petracca, Oliver, Viney.

What's your take on those 3 names moving forward? Considering how we need to change to a fast paced and clean disposal footy.

I'd personally keep all 3, but not play all 3 at centre bounce ever again. I think 1 of the 3 should be in there with 2 of Rivers, Pickett, Windsor, Langford, and Lindsay going forward.

Question for the pod -

Your the GM, your call to make on what happens with Richardson, Griffith's, Choco, Chaplin, Jones and Bassett at end of the season.

My dream was a complete revamp. However, I think the club needs some consistency. I'd axe Griffiths, Jones and Bassett. Move Chaplin back as defensive line coach. Head hunt best midfield (Cam Bruce, Matthew Boyd) and forwards coach (Brad Miller, Scott Burns, Scott Selwood) possible.

Some good signs in this game, I was thinking most of the week it had a chance to get very ugly for us. The signs for the future are looking quite good. I'm excited to see what the future holds and the changes that can be made in the team and game style.

The attack again was quite good today (though some bad misses on gettable shots). But again, the defence needs more work. As we start to look towards the end of the season, what would the panel like to see from the defence to cause some (albeit not much) optimism?

As an aside, Kentfield looked good again at Casey though I hope for his development's sake they keep him there for the rest of the season. Let him get next preseason in and unleash him on the competition pairing with JVR in 2026!

6 hours ago, Red and Bluebeard said:

Some good signs, but same old result in a close game! When will we win one of these?

Also, great effort from Sam Darcy in the last minute, but no way was that a mark!

Wanted to underline the question re losing close games. 6 this year. I was super proud of the team yesterday and can see the bright possibilities but close losses is definitely now a habit . It has been since losing 2 close finals in 23.

imo we get so close because we’re still such a great contested side.. with some very exciting young talent emerging now also. We lose because we consistently have too many goal costing brain fades across a game. At least we didn’t lose yesterday because we kicked badly for goal… so there’s that. But ANY clues as to how we turn this heartbreaking habit of losing close games around?

I counted four significant errors that cost us goals (unnecessarily)- take those out of our game and we win this.

@Demonland

💔another close loss. That’s 6 this year where the Dees were right in the contest but couldn’t get the win. What’s the issue? The onfield leadership? Decision making? Goalkicking? Strategy? All are shown to be lacking at the crunch)

💔💔our midfield? Once much adored, but was shown as a weakness. Gawn 50 hitouts and yet we LOSE CLEARANCES 31-46 and LOSE CENTRE CLEARANCES 10-19. What’s wrong? Setup? Strategy? Trac was particularly poor in stages. Fumbles fumbles fumbles. He needs to regain one touch footy.

Great pod guys. I look forward to it every week.

Be great to hear your thoughts/stats on how the backline functioned yesterday considering May and Lever out, Adams Debut and the relative youth (apart from T-Mac). I thought they gave a good account overall considering how open the game was and the strength of their talls.

Also I felt Trac is really putting in, and even had a good burst of speed for his goal. A little bit of silk and he dominates areas of that game. I fell it's coming.

Thanks fellas.

34 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

I counted four significant errors that cost us goals (unnecessarily)- take those out of our game and we win this.

Do you want to mention them so that we can discuss on the podcast?

2 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Do you want to mention them so that we can discuss on the podcast?

I remember one, I believe a Disco turnover on a seemingly open kick out of our defence. He went to the corridor and missed the man.

I'm loathed to blame any loss on the umpires but geez they were terrible yesterday. Missed blatant throws from the Bulldogs. A deliberate out of bounds in our forward line were the Bulldogs player made a try over the boundary line that would have been the envy on any rugby player and so many incorrect disposal non-decision. Anyways it was a much better effort from the Dees.

Would love to get your thoughts on the Sacking of Simon Goodwin last week and any potential replacement. Thoughts on Nathan Buckley as the favourite to coach the Dees? Who else do you think will go or needs to go?

This was the first game this year where we looked completely committed to the game plan. While the skill errors and lack of discipline were still there, we always looked for a runner out of the backline and looked to bring it back in board through the middle. There rarely seemed a moment where the players looked confused or caught in two minds about what to do and if mistakes occurred then they would try again.

I don't know if this was just a coincidence but there is just a little sadness that it took until now for the guys to have the confidence in this. Was Goodwin onto something?

37 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Do you want to mention them so that we can discuss on the podcast?

Turner in a horrible turnover ( after a great mark) led to a direct goal..in the 1st.

Rivers turned it over with a short kick coming out of defence straight to a bulldog...leading directly to a goal . In the 2nd.

Langford fluffs his kick to a wide open melksham in the sqaure ...balls goes oob. in the last ?

Thats three. There may be more. I cant remember the doggies doing the same that led directly to goals? But being honest the doggies also hit the post 6 times .

I generally dislike the talk of a noble loss, but this week I would tend to agree - some very good ball movement chains which we haven't seen much this season, and more links through the corridor (by both teams which made it a good game to watch) but still finally broken too often by poor finishing skills. Tweak that up over the off season and by draft / trade and I am optimistic about 2026

A very solid effort by the team.

Adams stood up reasonably in a terrifying baptism of fire with an elite tall forward combo of Naugthon, Darcy and cameos from English and occasionally Lobb.

Culley is contributing very well.

Chandler is looking like becoming a fair replacement for ANB with his gut running (game high of 16.7 km) and linking in the chain.

Max again enormous.

Just love Langford - great contested mark and 8 score involvements.

Bad luck for Caleb who should be put away for the season to be 100% when training resumes.

Looking forward to the changes for next week - Windsor and obvious out. Is it time to have a final look at Kynan Brown, or Woey? One or both are headed for the delist bin I suspect,

Anyway, as ever, thanks guys and looking forward to tonight's podcast, which no doubt will also include some speculation regarding our next coach. Troy Chaplain has said he is not in the running, but could another couple of spirited games like yesterday's change his mind?

59 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

@Demonland

💔another close loss. That’s 6 this year where the Dees were right in the contest but couldn’t get the win. What’s the issue? The onfield leadership? Decision making? Goalkicking? Strategy? All are shown to be lacking at the crunch)

💔💔our midfield? Once much adored, but was shown as a weakness. Gawn 50 hitouts and yet we LOSE CLEARANCES 31-46 and LOSE CENTRE CLEARANCES 10-19. What’s wrong? Setup? Strategy? Trac was particularly poor in stages. Fumbles fumbles fumbles. He needs to regain one touch footy.

I wanted to follow up on these comments - more a comment than a question re the Stats. We had pretty amazing transition numbers this week, which goes to the new game plan. Just as well that clicked yesterday because we were smashed in clearances (-15) and Inside 50's (-15): normally that would lead to a bigger loss than that. Amazing pressure in the third quarter drove the resurgence after half-time. I get the experiment with Windsor in the middle but Richards and Libba killed us inside. We needed Jack's game from last week this week. Petty's game was enormous and Max continues to be unbelievable.

2 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

Turner in a horrible turnover ( after a great mark) led to a direct goal..in the 1st.

Rivers turned it over with a short kick coming out of defence straight to a bulldog...leading directly to a goal . In the 2nd.

Langford fluffs his kick to a wide open melksham in the sqaure ...balls goes oob. in the last ?

Thats three. There may be more. I cant remember the doggies doing the same that led directly to goals? But being honest the doggies also hit the post 6 times .

Yep. They were pretty bad.

@binman

“Who Will Be Our Next Coach?”

Can we have a few minutes discussion on possibility of Nathan Buckley as our new coach for 2026 and beyond.

From your post yesterday in the other thread , I agree with many of your thought on misgivings but also the many many positives. Perhaps talk us through your post.

I’d also add that whilst Buckley never has tasted AFL premiership glory, I think it makes him driven to succeed. He still has the hunger to drive himself. I think he sits amongst others in the media and would like to taste that premiership glory. Whilst I hated him as a player, he has really great insights on SEN and on the commentary. He has my vote.

9 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

Turner in a horrible turnover ( after a great mark) led to a direct goal..in the 1st.

Rivers turned it over with a short kick coming out of defence straight to a bulldog...leading directly to a goal . In the 2nd.

Langford fluffs his kick to a wide open melksham in the sqaure ...balls goes oob. in the last ?

Thats three. There may be more. I cant remember the doggies doing the same that led directly to goals? But being honest the doggies also hit the post 6 times .

Langford fluffs his kick to a wide open melksham in the sqaure ...balls goes oob. in the last ?

End of the second quarter and yes Melksham had every right to go nuts. It was a simple 35 metre kick that would have seen a goal. Your 3 examples count in such a close game.

2 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

@binman

“Who Will Be Our Next Coach?”

Can we have a few minutes discussion on possibility of Nathan Buckley as our new coach for 2026 and beyond.

From your post yesterday in the other thread , I agree with many of your thought on misgivings but also the many many positives. Perhaps talk us through your post.

I’d also add that whilst Buckley never has tasted AFL premiership glory, I think it makes him driven to succeed. He still has the hunger to drive himself. I think he sits amongst others in the media and would like to taste that premiership glory. Whilst I hated him as a player, he has really great insights on SEN and on the commentary. He has my vote.

Spirit - I find your comments on hating Buckley as a player interesting. I did find him seemingly arrogant and I hated it when he took us apart, but I did admire his skills and determination to succeed.