10 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Its been reported on DL that we have TPP space.

If so we can bring forward some of the long term contract payments into this year which iirc ends Oct 31. eg Kozzie, Max, Oliver, Petracca etc.

If willing it could be done in a way to shave a year or two off Viney's contract. Same money, fewer years.

Obviously true then.

20 minutes ago, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

Apologies if someone has had a go at this earlier...

After he speaks out too positively, too early:

"F@#$! I've Got Job At Melbourne!"

Too early to start the "Is Nathan Buckley the right guy" thread??

2 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Obviously true then.

You know I love you @Lucifers Hero . . . but there are no more than a handful of posters that get any reliable intel. And posters restating on 'Land what the media mules peddle on behalf of player managers and discontented souls at club land is not the truth!

Edited August 12Aug 12 by Queanbeyan Demon

4 minutes ago, Sideshow Bob said:

Too early to start the "Is Nathan Buckley the right guy" thread??

No.

But can we modernise and call the thread "Is Nathan Buckley the right person?"

2 hours ago, Roger Mellie said:

Did Collingwood ship out Grundy under Buckley or McRae out of interest?

He came to us in 2023, so would have been McRae.

Edited. Even more McRae

Edited August 12Aug 12 by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

17 minutes ago, Sideshow Bob said:

Too early to start the "Is Nathan Buckley the right guy" thread??

Please, if a similar thread starts up again, shut it down. In my view, that was the epitome of MFCSS and not something that sucessful clubs supporters would focus on. Really hope we can move on from that rubbish after this saga.

Edited August 12Aug 12 by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

44 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Please, if a similar thread starts up again, shut it down

It won't be shut down because supporters have the right to ask the question. I just hope supporters give Buckley a decent amount of time before they start the thread.

Edited August 12Aug 12 by lorn

44 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Please, if a similar thread starts up again, shut it down. In my view, that was the epitome of MFCSS and not something that sucessful clubs supporters would focus on. Really hope we can move on from that rubbish after this saga.

I appreciate and agree with the sentiment, Balls.

However, it seems to have started already...

3 hours ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

This is just my interpretation of what Buckley is referring to and based on what is in the public domain. Note, it doesn't take into account rounding and smoothing effects - which, to my knowledge, are not in the public domain @Rodney (Balls) Grinter.

• In 2027 three people will consume around 20 percent of the TPP. One of those is used as a tagger, can't hit a target and hasn't finished inside the top 10 in the B&F in the last two years. One may not fully recover from the psychological effects of a horrendous injury (and cannot hit a target) And the third one is medically retired.

• It will also be a year when Turner, the Spreadsheet and Langford will required very significant pay increases.

• Of course some larger salaried players come out of the TPP by then as well - most notably, May.

Buckley already knows this is a potential impediment to him taking the job. Puts the drive to Sassafras in the shade as an issue.

From the net Re Gus - Salary Cap Relief:

The AFL granted Melbourne salary cap relief to help manage the financial burden of paying out the remaining portion of his contract.

Timeline:

The relief was structured over three years, with 90% of the contract paid outside the cap in 2025, 75% in 2026, and 50% in 2027.

My thinking is more did we bring some of the backhanded payments for Trac and others forward to 2025 and 2026, so we could reallocate that down the track, since because of the timing it wasn't really possible for us to offer that to attract other players in 2025 (could have retained Jordan or Bedford) and probably similar for 2026.

Edited August 12Aug 12 by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

I wonder what the chances are that this 'search' might go a little longer than some suspect 🤔

Outwardly it appears almost there. Internally, I'm not thinking so.

Whilst we'd want it wrapped up as early as possible I just have a sneaky suspicion there's a turn and twist or two yet to play out.

Those thinking around the week of the prelim might be on the money.

Going to be interesting, well already is.

🤞👍😉

6 hours ago, No10 said:

Our contracts seem well managed.

If it hasn’t happened already, I expect one call to AFL HQ from the CEO will make Gus’ payments quietly disappear from the cap.

It bothered me when Bucks said that because it lacked mature intellect. You’d never hear Roos speak that way, he can always explain his thinking in a way that is honest and insightful.

Initially I was anti-Bucks, then swapped to all for Bucks… now I’m wavering again.

6 hours ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:

Sam McClure reporting that Carlton made overtures to a number of people about their interest in their coaching job including a current coach (Chris Scott?)

Carlton's got a leak or someone's got a big mouth.

20 hours ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Caro doing her best to whip up some nasty headwinds along the path too

[censored] stirrer!!

8 hours ago, Roger Mellie said:

Did Collingwood ship out Grundy under Buckley or McRae out of interest?

—-——

FLY booted him end of ‘22

15 minutes ago, Longsufferingnomore said:

Carlton's got a leak or someone's got a big mouth.

Warms the heart

15 minutes ago, Longsufferingnomore said:

Carlton's got a leak or someone's got a big mouth.

Warms the heart

2 hours ago, beelzebub said:

I wonder what the chances are that this 'search' might go a little longer than some suspect 🤔

Outwardly it appears almost there. Internally, I'm not thinking so.

Whilst we'd want it wrapped up as early as possible I just have a sneaky suspicion there's a turn and twist or two yet to play out.

Those thinking around the week of the prelim might be on the money.

Going to be interesting, well already is.

🤞👍😉

Possibly more to play out but if I was a betting person I’d say they’ve already agreed commercials and a date to announce it (prelim final week).

21 hours ago, Demonland said:

So this is what people are getting the8r knickers in a knot over?

It appears I've heard similar things to Caro.

Nothing she says above is that outlandish.

2 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

So this is what people are getting the8r knickers in a knot over?

It appears I've heard similar things to Caro.

Nothing she says above is that outlandish.

It’s kinda silly isn’t it

professional sporting club tests the market to see what options they have before making enormous decision on premiership hero coach

I’d argue it would be negligent not to have those conversations ahead of time and common practice within the industry

4 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

So this is what people are getting the8r knickers in a knot over?

It appears I've heard similar things to Caro.

Nothing she says above is that outlandish.

Does anything you’ve heard make you concerned about attracting Buckley/any other potential coach?

In the other clip from that segment she spoke about Smith potentially assuming the President role in December, with the implication being this instability may scare off a potential coach in waiting

Not worried about them talking to Buckley early though - I’d be disappointed if they didn’t!

Edited August 12Aug 12 by demoncat

5 hours ago, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

I appreciate and agree with the sentiment, Balls.

However, it seems to have started already...

How sad! If we get Buckley it would be "he never won a flag (and maybe he was out of coaching too long or that McRae did way better with apparently the same team).

If we got Simpson or Horse it'd be how their sides ended up dreadful ( or just dreadful in GFs)

Just about anyone else it would "we should have got an experienced coach ...or stuck with Goody."

It's so easy to whinge.

34 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

So this is what people are getting the8r knickers in a knot over?

It appears I've heard similar things to Caro.

Nothing she says above is that outlandish.

she actively says that he should coach tasmania(n) devils, a team that DOES NOT EXIST, over the melbourne demons, the oldest team in the top tier competiton in the world and the founder of the game

36 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

So this is what people are getting the8r knickers in a knot over?

It appears I've heard similar things to Caro.

Nothing she says above is that outlandish.

As the boys said on the pod, if we hadn’t had a conversation with anyone prior to sacking Goody they’d be accusing us of not having our ducks in a row.

I reckon corners of the media are dirty they weren’t onto this much earlier and now they’re just spraying bullets.

Edited August 12Aug 12 by The Jackson FIX

31 minutes ago, demoncat said:

Does anything you’ve heard make you concerned about attracting Buckley/any other potential coach?

In the other clip from that segment she spoke about Smith potentially assuming the President role in December, with the implication being this instability may scare off a potential coach in waiting

Not worried about them talking to Buckley early though - I’d be disappointed if they didn’t!

Yes.

But I'd be staggered if Buckley wasn't offered the job prior to us sacking Goody.

If you're Buckley you're not going to risk putting your name out there unless you're confident of getting the gig.

It impacts on your brand to not get senior roles if you go for them and have media love ins about it.

5 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

she actively says that he should coach tasmania(n) devils, a team that DOES NOT EXIST, over the melbourne demons, the oldest team in the top tier competiton in the world and the founder of the game

She uses a weak argument, but I believe it more likely comes from the fact that we are a mess off field.

31 minutes ago, demoncat said:

Does anything you’ve heard make you concerned about attracting Buckley/any other potential coach?

In the other clip from that segment she spoke about Smith potentially assuming the President role in December, with the implication being this instability may scare off a potential coach in waiting

Not worried about them talking to Buckley early though - I’d be disappointed if they didn’t!

Yep, assuming they'd get their man would have been stupid. Just imagine if Buckley, Longmire, Simpson and the most promising assistant coaches all genuinely and categorically had stated they weren't interested and we ended up with a dud (and thread on here soon after about it)

...we'd be getting back to circa 2013.

20 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

she actively says that he should coach tasmania(n) devils, a team that DOES NOT EXIST, over the melbourne demons, the oldest team in the top tier competiton in the world and the founder of the game

Not that any of this is relevant, of course.

Edited August 12Aug 12 by La Dee-vina Comedia
Added missing words